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He is a very accurate passer if he is given time with protection. Tends to make bad throws when hurried.
But any QB can be effective when they get time to throw. What makes a QB special is the ability to buy time or move around in the pocket which is something Eli has never been able to do.
Just my 2 cents but I don't think SB wins have anything to do with it, not at all. SB wins are a team thing, many factors but an elite QB should be considered on overall play not the playoffs. INTs, mobility, long ball, accuracy, throwing off balance, running right, throwing left (or the opposite), in the pocket, out of the pocket, many things, not just the wins.
Peyton is better than Eli and Eli may never get there! I'm wondering if the offense they are trying to install (McAdoo) is too complicated for Eli. It is a progression offense, throw to the open guy, not targeting WRs and Cruz is already letting it be known he isn't targeted enough. McAdoo is good but Eli isn't Aaron, far from it (even with 2 rings to ARs 1)!
Just my 2 cents but I don't think SB wins have anything to do with it, not at all. SB wins are a team thing, many factors but an elite QB should be considered on overall play not the playoffs. INTs, mobility, long ball, accuracy, throwing off balance, running right, throwing left (or the opposite), in the pocket, out of the pocket, many things, not just the wins.
Peyton is better than Eli and Eli may never get there! I'm wondering if the offense they are trying to install (McAdoo) is too complicated for Eli. It is a progression offense, throw to the open guy, not targeting WRs and Cruz is already letting it be known he isn't targeted enough. McAdoo is good but Eli isn't Aaron, far from it (even with 2 rings to ARs 1)!
correct susan, so many people keep bringing up superbowl rings which should not matter if the QB has lead the league in interception on top of missing the playoffs two seasons in a row.
I'm a Giants fan and never thought he was an elite. Too many INTs and awful under pressure. Elite has nothing to do with SB rings. Look at Bradshaw and Aikman, title winners but certainly not elite, especially when you take into account their supporting cast.
I'm a Giants fan and never thought he was an elite. Too many INTs and awful under pressure. Elite has nothing to do with SB rings. Look at Bradshaw and Aikman, title winners but certainly not elite, especially when you take into account their supporting cast.
I say that about Aikman all the time especially since he was just like Eli, no mobility and interception prone. And like you said Eli had nothing to do with the SB's wins, it was the defense who put him in position to put pts on the board. And don't even get me started on that first SB win when David Tyree catches the ball with his helmet
I'm a Giants fan and never thought he was an elite. Too many INTs and awful under pressure. Elite has nothing to do with SB rings. Look at Bradshaw and Aikman, title winners but certainly not elite, especially when you take into account their supporting cast.
You never thought Eli Manning was a great quarterback when won those two SuperBowls?
You never thought Eli Manning was a great quarterback when won those two SuperBowls?
In the first SB it was all about that defense. They stuffed the Run and held the Pats offense with Randy Moss and wes Welker to only 14 pts. And add that Helmet catch by David Tyree and what you have was an all around team win.
He is a very accurate passer if he is given time with protection. Tends to make bad throws when hurried.
Any NFL level QB could be an accurate passer if they were given time and protection. That doesn't make a QB elite. An elite QB is able to make throws under pressure when the pocket collapses.
Any NFL level QB could be an accurate passer if they were given time and protection. That doesn't make a QB elite. An elite QB is able to make throws under pressure when the pocket collapses.
Exactly, being able to make something happen when the pressure is on is what makes a guy elite in the NFL. I seen Eli throw a pass anywhere on the field just to avoid getting hit and sometimes it results in a interception.
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