New stadium in St Louis (pay, star, NFL, Raiders)

[Floorist]

It was announced today, there are plans to build a new NFL stadium in St Louis.

[bluescreen73]

The fact that nobody from the Rams organization was involved with the announcement tells me Stan Kroenke already has his mind made up to move the team back to L.A.

[Floorist]

Maybe the Raiders would be interested.

[iknowftbll]

Or the Chargers.

[mco65]

I am willing to bet that those plans fall through if the Rams leave for LA...

[Colt AZ]

Originally Posted by Floorist

Maybe the Raiders would be interested.

Hmmm... the St Louis Raiders...

[Floorist]

Originally Posted by Colt Cassidy

Hmmm... the St Louis Raiders...

Well anything would beat that dump they play in now. For all the whining when they left Oakland for LA, they aren't doing much to keep them now. I think they would be a better fit in LA than the Rams.

[JJG]

Originally Posted by mco65

I am willing to bet that those plans fall through if the Rams leave for LA...

The Rams already have one leg out the door. It breaks down like this:


STL Release: no team, land not owned or under option, no developers who will acknowledge that a stadium can be built at that price. Who handles over-runs (say, 200M or so), who handles litigation or delays, remediation of unknown problems, lawsuits, etc. Completion hoped by 2020 but really difficult to say given number of open issues.

Funding: a dog's breakfast of sources, none committed, some subject to endless political discussion and/or litigation. PSL, naming rights and parking revenues go to city.

Other: will govt. pay damages if funds or stadium are not timely delivered as promised? Put money into escrow to secure financial and construction performance? Bond their performance through reputable insurance companies? (No.)

Result: 64k stadium with no roof.

LA Plan: team in hand (the Rams); land in hand (Inglewood); experienced developer in hand (Stockbridge Capital Group.); team and developer handle all risks as part of already established JV. Completion by 2018.

Funding: in hand. PSL, naming rights, parking, hotels, housing, restaurants, etc., are fully zoned and approved by city with 100 percent of risks and profits to developer (PSL and naming rights will be over 1B). Infrastructure already under construction.

Other: developer takes all responsibility for over-runs, unexpected obstacles, etc. Govt. in no way at risk and not involved except as with all construction.

Result: 80k stadium with roof, ready for Super Bowl, World Cup, Final Four and show place for visitors to LA; surrounded by pleasant walkways, ponds, private townhomes and NFL exhibits. Plus relocation fee to NFL.





Side note: I HIGHLY doubt the Raiders leave Cali.

[Colt AZ]

Originally Posted by Floorist

Well anything would beat that dump they play in now. For all the whining when they left Oakland for LA, they aren't doing much to keep them now. I think they would be a better fit in LA than the Rams.

There actually is a history in Missouri behind the Raiders name, which comes from the Civil War, and a guy named William Quantrill, but I'll leave that for you history buffs to look up!

Instead of the St Louis Raiders, the name seriously could become the Missouri Raiders.

[Ghengis]

in Minnesota we funded our stadium with magic dollars from electronic pull tabs that nobody ever uses

E-pulltab haul for new Vikings stadium is zero in first year | Star Tribune

E-pulltabs have raised as much money for the Vikings stadium as the tooth fairy | City Pages

in the end, it's best we make the degenerate smokers pay for these things