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I've made this a "sticky" as there will certainly be lots of comments regarding Manning. I don't want duplicate threads, in fact three reports were turned in within the last half hour stating just that.
Only watched some of the game. His receivers dropped balls, but he overthrew a lot of deep balls. That doesn't really support a "not much left in his arm" theory.
accuracy is part of it..
no zip on those passes and he can't thread a needle anymore.
His accuracy may or may not be off. But clearly arm strength isn't the issue. His passes have never looked pretty anyway.
Maybe those leg injuries have hurt him. Doesn't mean he has to retire. Is this really any different from any of his one and done seasons with the Colts?
Manning played the last 3 weeks of the season with a torn quadricep. Helps explain the drop-off in production, but does not justify his huge salary next season. If the Broncos pay him the full $19 million next year they're idiots.
But aren't injuries a part of the overall analysis with any QB in his late 30s? What are the actuarial odds of a QB making it healthy and being effective at the end of a brutal 17-week season? Not that good. Peyton's got a lot of mileage on that body. He's a great QB - one of the best ever. But I think it's time to pack it in.
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Originally Posted by bluescreen73
Manning played the last 3 weeks of the season with a torn quadricep. Helps explain the drop-off in production, but does not justify his huge salary next season. If the Broncos pay him the full $19 million next year they're idiots.
Yes injuries are a part of the analysis, but it depends on the injury. A quad could explain his inability to plant and get off a good throw, so it may not necessarily be his arm strength. But age does show a difference as Rodgers was also playing with a leg injury but he could overcome a lot of it with pure arm strength.
Peyton is in a tough place right now as are the Broncos. Maybe he'll be smart and do what Brady has done many times if he wants to play - restructure his contract to free up cap space to bring in other players.
It's very likely that Andrew Luck and Aaron Rodgers pass both Peyton and Tom as the greater QBs when it is all said and done. I think Peyton still has another year or two left.
Possible but I disagree that it is " very likely" that either will pass Tom Brady. Bradys records speak for themselves and once Rogers/Lucks' careers are over I'm sure their numbers will be comparable. But at the end of the day we will have to look at Brady's 3 titles and 5 overall Superbowl appearances. Those achievements can only be compared to Montana (4-0), Bradshaw (4-0). even Elway (2-3).
Once Rogers and Luck get to their 3rd title, respectively, then we can talk. Until then, I think it is very premature to say they are "very likely" to pass Brady.
Fyi: I'm not a Patriots fan at all.
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