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Old 01-30-2015, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Excellent documentary on the leagues denial that concussions cause long term brain damage.
The First 20 minutes or so, deals with Mike Webster and how 17 years in the NFL destroyed his brain and body.

League of Denial: The NFL’s Concussion Crisis | FRONTLINE | PBS
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:32 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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They're making tax-free Mega-$$$, debilitating injuries to their workers isn't a concern.
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Austin
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I sympathize with the football players that are injured, in the brain or otherwise, however, I don't believe these professional athletes could possibly think being consistently tackled by 300 pound men for years would be innocuous.


While the best equipment should be provided to protect the players, it is a dangerous game. They are well paid for their sport and choosing to play.

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Old 01-30-2015, 06:53 AM
 
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I sympathize with the football players that are injured, in the brain or otherwise, however, I don't how these professional athletes could possibly think being consistently tackled by 300 pound men for years would be innocuous.
Maybe the team medical staffs they rely on doping them up and telling them everything's gonna be all right has something to do with it?
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Old 01-30-2015, 08:08 AM
 
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Maybe the team medical staffs they rely on doping them up and telling them everything's gonna be all right has something to do with it?
Very true, and being sent back into the game with a concussion, and the league denies it all as not to accept liability.
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Old 01-30-2015, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I don't think there is anything that can be done about this short of turning the game into flag football. Once you receive a concussion the damage is done and each time it happens again the damage is compounded. What is a team to do? They pay their star player millions and in one play he can be knocked out of the game. He looks OK, he wants to play but the Docs adn NFL sit him out for a few weeks. He should sit out for the rest of the season.

A NFL players body has taken a ton of abuse probably starting around the age of 12. To play is a choice.
What if we compare the abuse a player takes from age 12 to 25 or 30 when they have had enough abuse and instead of giving them concussions we give them cigarettes, drugs, excessive alcohol, let them risk their lives with other dangerous sports....
Concussions are bad but I think there are far worse things that people do to themselves that ruin their lives.
I'd rather play in the NFL then be a Cop or a soldier in todays world.
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Old 01-30-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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Maybe the team medical staffs they rely on doping them up and telling them everything's gonna be all right has something to do with it?
Oh bull****. I knew the risks when I played high school and college ball back in the late 70's and early 80's.

These players know the risks and make millions.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:42 PM
 
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Oh bull****. I knew the risks when I played high school and college ball back in the late 70's and early 80's.

These players know the risks and make millions.
Exactly none of the players of the game of football are "victims" because all players are participating voluntarily. From Pee Wee to Pop Warner to the NFL...football is a voluntary exercise, caveat emptor.

Forget the NFL millionaires and the folks going to really good colleges for free or any other benefit from playing ball....even if nothing came of it besides just playing the sport for the fun of it...IT IS PURELY VOLUNTARY.

Brain damage from repeated concussions may be a bummer, it might even be unfortunate, but it isn't tragic and it certainly isn't something the NFL invented or swept under the rug. The term "got his bell rung" and being checked for concussions was happening when I played high school in the early 80s, and I know guys who played college ball in the 50s and 60s who said the same thing.

The reason it's a big deal now is the welfare state makes everyone into a victim in order to cut holes in the bottom of deep pockets. Maybe 30-35k people have played NFL football, and so far we have what...a dozen or so "tragic" cases like Mike Webster and Junior Seau? Statistically, the pool is very small, and the hysteria very big...and once more, the fact that football is PURELY VOLUNTARY is always the missing detail behind the truth of it all.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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Moved to proper forum. Closed until Double H has an opportunity to review.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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moved to proper forum. Clo
iHas been re-opened.

We've had this discussion before and that thread went nutsy after a few days. Will keep this going for a while and see how it goes.
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