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Old 04-30-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Like for one, does it really want anything when a player is out there on the football field? A long with actual football speed
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:45 PM
 
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Probably the most overrated stat ever. As a Raiders fan, I have watched them draft some of the fastest players over the years and pretty much all of them have been busts. Of course slower players they passed on went on to become Pro Bowlers and Hall of Famers.

Here are some of them:

Jacoby Ford (4.28)
Darrius Heyward-Bey (4.30)
Stanford Routt (4.27),
Darren McFadden (4.33)
DeMarcus Van Dyke (4.28)
Taiwan Jones (4.33)
Terrelle Pryor (4.36)
Fabian Washington (4.29)
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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For wide receivers and defensive backs it's a measure of performance. For ANY line position it's meaningless. For defensive lineman and even linebackers to some degree, cut that distance in half. For offensive lineman what's important is how quick you are in 10 yards. The emphasis is size and quickness. How fast you react after the ball is snapped will be one of the main determining factors.

Even running back's success isn't hinged on a great 40 yard dash time. The important thing is how quick can you hit the hole, are you quick enough to evade tacklers, and whether you're tenacious or not.

Quarterback position, totally meaningless. Last I checked no NFL team is running an option offense. Heck, the running back position has been downgraded in importance dramatically as more and more teams resort to the passing game even when only short yardage is needed. Not always a smart move as Seattle found out in the Super Bowl.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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I agree with the above. If your defensive lineman are running 40 yards down the field, usually that's not a good thing.
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Old 05-01-2015, 09:50 AM
 
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The best WR in history, Jerry Rice, ran a 4.71.

Best RB in history, Emmitt Smith, ran a 4.8.

Like I said 40 times are overrated.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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The best WR in history, Jerry Rice, ran a 4.71.

Best RB in history, Emmitt Smith, ran a 4.8.

Like I said 40 times are overrated.
Love your stats. Says it all.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: NY
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The best WR in history, Jerry Rice, ran a 4.71.

Best RB in history, Emmitt Smith, ran a 4.8.

Like I said 40 times are overrated.
Definate proof that combine performance often gets over and/or underrated against the complete package of the player.

Although I do not know their combine results, Andre Reed (WR) and Thurman Thomas (RB), both hall of famers, were not going to run away from too many guys on the field either. Neither had true breakaway speed.

Ranking skill positions by 0-40 alone ignores the importance of these athlete to be able to make cuts and quickly accelerate after a cut/stop. Some of the best 0-40 guys can just run fast in a straight line, which limits their true effectiveness.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:14 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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For wide receivers and defensive backs it's a measure of performance. For ANY line position it's meaningless. For defensive lineman and even linebackers to some degree, cut that distance in half. For offensive lineman what's important is how quick you are in 10 yards. The emphasis is size and quickness. How fast you react after the ball is snapped will be one of the main determining factors.

Even running back's success isn't hinged on a great 40 yard dash time. The important thing is how quick can you hit the hole, are you quick enough to evade tacklers, and whether you're tenacious or not.

Quarterback position, totally meaningless. Last I checked no NFL team is running an option offense. Heck, the running back position has been downgraded in importance dramatically as more and more teams resort to the passing game even when only short yardage is needed. Not always a smart move as Seattle found out in the Super Bowl.
Especially the part about the quarterback position. Which is ridiculous, the qb should be focused on throwing not running.

smh
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: NY
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I think there is importance to QB mobility in the NFL. 0-40 is not the end all, but guys like Russell Wilson have had a lot of success by using their legs as well as their arms.

Even non running QB's need to be able to avoid the rush, get out of the pocket, and not get chased down too quickly by fleet linebackers when buying time for receivers.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:31 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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I think there is importance to QB mobility in the NFL. 0-40 is not the end all, but guys like Russell Wilson have had a lot of success by using their legs as well as their arms.

Even non running QB's need to be able to avoid the rush, get out of the pocket, and not get chased down too quickly by fleet linebackers when buying time for receivers.
Yeah, but you don't see Peyton Manning running as much. You don't want your qb to be a Mike Vicki by running more than passing.
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