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Old 08-09-2009, 10:25 AM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Well, he did step up once. Obviously, the Giant front office thinks he can do it again.

Step up my A$$. These are Eli's stats in a HOME PLAYOFF GAME against the Eagles who were not supposed to be in the playoffs.

15/29, 169yds, no TD's, 2 INt's.

Just amazed he gets a NEW DEAL after that type of playoff exit
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Redneckville, NJ
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Step up my A$$. These are Eli's stats in a HOME PLAYOFF GAME against the Eagles who were not supposed to be in the playoffs.

15/29, 169yds, no TD's, 2 INt's.

Just amazed he gets a NEW DEAL after that type of playoff exit
Thanks for posting this. The only thing Eli will be stepping up to, is the bank window cash his check....laughing all the way. He's a joke.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Step up my A$$. These are Eli's stats in a HOME PLAYOFF GAME against the Eagles who were not supposed to be in the playoffs.

15/29, 169yds, no TD's, 2 INt's.

Just amazed he gets a NEW DEAL after that type of playoff exit
That's one game, and the year before he played very well in the postseason to get the Giants to the Super Bowl and had a decent game there and an excellent final drive.
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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That's one game, and the year before he played very well in the postseason to get the Giants to the Super Bowl and had a decent game there and an excellent final drive.
If you owned a professional sports team, would you throw $97 million at a player because he had a decent game and an excellent final drive?

What about taking his whole NFL career into account--during the course of which he's only managed to prove that he's slightly above mediocre.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:57 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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If you owned a professional sports team, would you throw $97 million at a player because he had a decent game and an excellent final drive?

What about taking his whole NFL career into account--during the course of which he's only managed to prove that he's slightly above mediocre.

Thank you, Nothing but a average QB and just barely
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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If you owned a professional sports team, would you throw $97 million at a player because he had a decent game and an excellent final drive?

What about taking his whole NFL career into account--during the course of which he's only managed to prove that he's slightly above mediocre.
That's taking a pretty simplistic view of it. After all, he's only had two seasons with Gilbride and Palmer. Before that he didn't have much offensive coaching outside of Coughlin.
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Old 08-16-2009, 04:30 AM
 
Location: H-town, TX.
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Carr could have been a really good quarterback, but like you mentioned he was practically beaten to death because the Texans could never protect him. As a result, he never really developed as a quarterback and now he's on the wrong side of 30 playing as a journeyman backup.

If someone with a good QB coach or QB friendly system picks him up, I wouldn't be surprised if he turns him into Flutie/Cunningham/Chandler esque project who finishes out his career with a few serious playoff pushes.

As for Eli, he may not be a great quarterback but he's shown that he can step up and make the plays needed to win the big games. With the defense they've built, that's really all they need of him.
I wouldn't bet the house on that.

The one year Carr did not get beaten to death via sacks, he threw for 3,000 yards...and got hurt (nailed hand on a defender's helmet).

Somehow, he turned into a 70% passer who had an aversion to throwing FORWARD passes and TDs after that solid season.

Oh, nobody accused Carr of working too particularly hard, either.

So, leave that one to smolder on its own.
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Old 08-18-2009, 12:56 PM
 
Location: When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic
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Default Giants - good game !!!!

NY Giants happy with offensive progress in 24-17 preseason victory over Carolina Panthers - NJ.com
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:16 PM
 
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Talk about an interesting ending to the game; sheesh!

A fumble or a pick? No matter-that was 6 either way!
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:12 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I wouldn't bet the house on that.

The one year Carr did not get beaten to death via sacks, he threw for 3,000 yards...and got hurt (nailed hand on a defender's helmet).

Somehow, he turned into a 70% passer who had an aversion to throwing FORWARD passes and TDs after that solid season.

Oh, nobody accused Carr of working too particularly hard, either.

So, leave that one to smolder on its own.
Carr improved his % each year he started by a significant margin. Went from around 50% as a first year starter to almost 70% before he became a backup. Eli has seen his % rise a tiny bit, only to fall (the year he led the NFL in interceptions) the next season. Last year he set a career high by completing 60% of his passes, but was still statistically worse in nearly every category than Shaun Hill!

And to really show how stupid the signing was, the Chargers just signed Phil Rivers (a FAR superior quarterback in every way, who probably could have won a super bowl with a healthy Shawne Merriman on defense last year) for more than $5,000,000 less than Manning. Rivers is also a year younger than Manning (well, 11 months) and has less of an ego.
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