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Old 10-09-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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Yes, Eli Manning is a terrible guy for doing that Yes
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I know this is an old thread. I will always dislike him because of that. The draft is set up to help teams. Once players start trying to dictate where they go I think they are messing with the system. Imagine if no stud picks agreed to play for the crappy teams.
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:29 AM
 
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Eli was 'powerful' enough to be able to decide where he wanted to play. Some players have the ability to dictate terms. If you have the ability to dictate terms, why would you accept going to a 'random' team if you dont have to?
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Two Rivers, Wisconsin
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Hmmm, didn't know this story and not sure which side of the fence I'm sitting on. I do like Eli though and with stories like this sometimes there is more than meets the eye.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Hmmm, didn't know this story and not sure which side of the fence I'm sitting on. I do like Eli though and with stories like this sometimes there is more than meets the eye.
I haven't taken the time to read through the entire thread, but I don't recall either Archie or Eli stating that he didn't want to play in SD because of market size or team performance. I suspect it had to do with the Chargers GM, who has a reputation as being a gigantic penis.

Kinda funny how Eli has won two SBs since this thread started and SD still hasn't reached one. I suspect Eli feels comfortable with his decision.
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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The problem with what Eli Manning did is that the draft is a structure specifically intended to distribute talent throughout the league, while steering the top talent towards those teams that performed poorest the previous season. The goal is competitive balance, which is ultimately designed to increase the profitability of the league (the even sharing of television revenue serves the same purpose). This increased profitability, of course, ends up financially benefiting the players -- including Manning -- through both immediate revenue and by increasing the long-term stability of the league.

And this requirement isn't onerous. All he had to do was bide his time and spend four years in San Diego, after which he could have become a free agent and headed to what he deemed were greener pastures. Oh, the horrors of having to spend the years (well, half of each of those years) between 22 and 26 years of age living in San Diego while earning seven figures!

Finally, it is worth noting that, having signed with New York, Manning became a member of the players union, tacitly agreeing to the provisions of its labor agreement, which include the terms of the college draft. So Manning is a signatory to a contract which demands of incoming drafted college players something to which he refused to agree. Quite the hypocrite.

Why did Eli do what he did? Simple -- he could. He narcissistically gamed the very system that fills his coffers, caring not a whit about anything but his own immediate desires. Say what you will about Peyton Manning, I doubt Indianapolis was precisely where the #1 overall draft pick in 1998 would have worked/lived had he been able to pick from any of the 28 NFL metropolitan areas. But I guess Peyton, unlike his brother, realized he had it very good (to put it mildly) and that the least he could do was abide by the norms of the hand-over-fist moneymaker that is the NFL.
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:07 PM
 
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This move by Eli Manning revitalized Drew Brees career as Phillip Rivers would holdout of his contract while Drew Brees went on and lead the Chargers to a 12-4 record. Now Phillip Rivers is stuck with A.J. Smith and Norv Turner whereas Brees and Manning have both won a Superbowl and became Superbowl MVP for a different team.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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Every man for himself. If the NFL allowed it, how is it Eli's fault?!

How can anyone hate/dislike Eli or fault him for wanting to play in one of the best football franchises known to man, it's not personal, it's business, he, he.

Y'all need to get a grip hare, hate the organization and the flawed system that represents and encourages it.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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Y'all need to get a grip hare, hate the organization and the flawed system that represents and encourages it.

How exactly does the system encourage this? It has happened only a handful of times out of thousands and thousands of draft picks.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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How exactly does the system encourage this? It has happened only a handful of times out of thousands and thousands of draft picks.
Bottom line, NFL allowed it, they made a deal and the Chargers were well compensated.

Eli and Rivers were 1 and 2 pick in the nation respectively, no guarantees for either to win a SB, but the irony here is Eli was green and a work in progress as Rivers was considered a better QB than Eli out of college, it's only an issue now because Eli has 2 Superbowl rings.

At any rate, Chargers with Rivers at the helm were favorite to win the Superbowl way before Eli/Giants were. That the Chargers could not produce is not Eli's fault, Rivers was not surrounded with the players he needed to get to the Superbowl, falls into the 'too bad' category and on management.
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