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Old 02-02-2008, 07:56 PM
 
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i don't think they could stop irvin,smith,harper,novacek,and a coach called jimmy johnson.
Maybe not, but i dont think the Cowboys would be able to stop Brady, Moss, Welker, that great O-line they have, and a coach called Bill Belichick.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:50 PM
 
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Maybe not, but i dont think the Cowboys would be able to stop Brady, Moss, Welker, that great O-line they have, and a coach called Bill Belichick.
could that be the reason brady spent the whole game on his ass?because of that great o line.
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:09 PM
 
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The Patriots would have been crushed by the Chicago Bulls of the 90's. Tom Brady is no match for Michael Jordan.



Seriously, its nothing more than fantasy to use the would've, should've, could've arguments.

Had the Patriots won the super bowl, they would not have been the greatest team ever. If they were, then we must now consider the Giants the best team ever.

There is no best team ever. There are only fantasy arguments. With all due respect, the 1972 Dolphins were not the best team ever due to being undefeated. They are simply the only team to pull off a perfect record.

If we wanna talk about the greatest ever, it would be challenging to do so without looking at one factor as the most important: PLAYOFF DOMINANCE. The best teams make the playoffs. Once teams are in the playoffs, that is when the great step forward. Occasionally teams come along that utterly destroy all competititon in the playoffs. IMO, that would be the first place to start if you wanted to pretend there was actually a "greatest ever". That would immediately catapult the 85 Bears and 89 SF 49ers to the front of the list as those who tried to play them were totally obliterated. The Bears outscored opponents 91-10 in the post season. Thats right. 3 games against the best competition the NFL could offer them and the combined points scored on them was 10. That is dominance. Then you have the juggernaut offense of the 1989 49ers who outscored opponents 126-26. Thats right, the best competition offered was outscored by 100 points total in 3 games. Average margin of victory almost 5 touchdowns.


But to compare teams from one year to the next is still nothing more than fun and fantasy. The competition, the playing conditions, the injuries, etc, too many things factor in.

Sure the 2007 Patriots would have probably wiped the field with the 1972 Dolphins. Probably most teams this year were good enough to do so. So many advances have been made in nutrition, training, injury prevention/treatment, equipment, etc. it would be foolish to think otherwise. But take this years Patriots and put them in 1972 and they wouldn't look even close to what they are. Neither would any other team today. The advancements made in 30+ years have changed the game in a dramatic fashion.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:00 PM
 
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the 07 patsies wouldn't have a shot of beating the 90's boys even though the boys never had a perfect season.people seem to forget how weak the patriots division is starting with the dolphins,the jets are next and then the bills that's a total of six easy wins plus the games they should of lost.such as the ravens,eagles,giants all of those non division teams choked in the 4th qtr and let the patsies off the hook.the path to history was a lot easier than we think.
Bottom line ... everyone was totally blinded by that "0" in the loss column for the Patriots. They simply weren't the best team the NFL has ever seen. Just like you said, the Ravens, Eagles, and Giants (first time around) all came close to beating them. They could just as easily have ended 13-3.

As happy as I am that the Pats lost, I really think that unbeaten record did them a disservice. They thought they were invincible, and the sports media just reinforced it in their heads. They got overconfident, started to believe their own hype, and blew it when everything was on the line.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:13 PM
 
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The 2008 Pats would wipe up the field with the 90s Cowboys. You're talking 13 and 14 years ago folks. The speed and strength of these players increases yearly. Heck, the 2007 Dolphins would wipe up the floor with the 72 Dolphins.
Nah, half the Patriots were in the NFL during the Cowboys heyday (half might be an exageration but this Pats team was no spring chickens). I agree that players are getting much faster and more athletic but it takes more than 10-14 years to see a dramatic difference in the speed of play. Plus, this Pats team was not known for being a physically imposing team with the exception of Moss.

I do agree that the 72 Dolphins are overrated
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