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Old 09-01-2012, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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I just want to let you people know something.... the top 3 teams in the running of moving (back) to L.A.:

- Rams
- Chargers
- Raiders.


The Jaguars are NOT going to L.A. And if they ever do, it won't be within the next 20 years.
Scratch the Raiders off the list. Mark Davis said he is unwilling to sell part of the team to a new ownership group, which is what they would want if the Raiders were to get a franchise in LA.

Raiders unlikely to move to L.A., unless Mark Davis sells | ProFootballTalk

Honestly, I hate to say it but at this point, we probably won't see a team in LA for a while. It's kind of a game of the chicken and the egg: a team will only move to the city if there is a new stadium built, but those who want to build the new stadium will only do so if a team commits to moving there.

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The Chargers need to bolt from California altogether. The state is virtually broke and so is San Diego for the purposes of funding the contruction of a new stadium. Becoming the third team in booming Texas is what they should do so they can quit begging and pleading for a new building where they are now. I've got San Antonio in mind for a good relocation spot.
What does the state have to do with anything if a privately funded stadium comes through? Oh right, nothing.
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Old 09-02-2012, 12:00 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Scratch the Raiders off the list. Mark Davis said he is unwilling to sell part of the team to a new ownership group, which is what they would want if the Raiders were to get a franchise in LA.

Raiders unlikely to move to L.A., unless Mark Davis sells | ProFootballTalk

Honestly, I hate to say it but at this point, we probably won't see a team in LA for a while. It's kind of a game of the chicken and the egg: a team will only move to the city if there is a new stadium built, but those who want to build the new stadium will only do so if a team commits to moving there.
Until 2016, I'm not letting any possibility go.... other than the Jaguars moving.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:19 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but that's not happenin', man.

The Alamodome is old as dirt and outdated by a mile now. Unless they go with a full overhaul, but I'm not sure how that would go.
San Antonio likely would not have much of an issue, problem, with using public-funds, taxpayer dollars to help build a stadium, L.A. has always flat-out refused
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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San Antonio likely would not have much of an issue, problem, with using public-funds, taxpayer dollars to help build a stadium, L.A. has always flat-out refused
Now if the city could just come up with some major investor to bankroll a franchise. That's really all that is needed at least initially. I don't think that a completely publicly subsidized Dome would be necessary or even feasible in San Antonio now. A new building would have to be a public/private financed endeavor. Since the area is growing by leaps and bounds both population wise and economically the chances of attracting an NFL team get better moving forward.
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:07 PM
 
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I personally would like to see the NFL play more neutral site regular season games. Maybe a Det or Buf game in Toronto, Jags or Bucs game in Orlando, Cowboys or Texans game in San Antonio or Austin, Raiders game in Las Vegas, Cardinals in Albuqurque, one of the midwest teams playing in Des Moines or Lincoln or Omaha. There's numerous possibilities.
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I personally would like to see the NFL play more neutral site regular season games. Maybe a Det or Buf game in Toronto, Jags or Bucs game in Orlando, Cowboys or Texans game in San Antonio or Austin, Raiders game in Las Vegas, Cardinals in Albuqurque, one of the midwest teams playing in Des Moines or Lincoln or Omaha. There's numerous possibilities.
no team would willingly do this as they would lose revenue and many of their leases would prohibit it.

a better idea would be to add another team along with LA., the new team could rotate among different cities such as you suggest and play in a floating stadium pulled from city to city by a million hummingbirds.
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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These are just ridiculous statements... Who cares if the stadiums are not in the actual city?

It's a waste of a huge amount of space and parking that the city could use for something more important. They can put the stadiums in the boonies all they want...

The teams are still Dallas and NY!

so my statement is ridiculous because the largest city in the USA doesnt have a football team? uhhh ok.......................


and they have put em in the boonies....u ever heard of green bay auburn hills,pontiac or glendale? theyre not large cities
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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actually, shovels breaking ground on a los angeles nfl stadium would indicate that it's a done deal. that's because construction on the proposed downtown stadium cannot begin until the developer (AEG) reaches an ironclad agreement with a team to move to the city - this is explicitly stated in the memorandum of understanding that the LA city council approved yesterday.

so nothing can happen (construction-wise) until the relocating team agrees to move to LA. during construction, the newly relocated team would temporarily play in either the los angeles coliseum or the rose bowl until farmers field is completed.

btw, i do agree with you that the nfl to LA is still not a given - there are several obstacles that need to be overcome before a team would agree to relocate to the city. but it certainly seems like a pretty realistic possibility at this point, given the series of stadium-related developments that have unfolded in LA over the past year or two. right now, i'd place the odds of it happening as better than 70/30.

in the end, i'd be surprised if it doesn't happen in the next five years.



football didn't "fail" in LA - that's a lazy, cliched, and ignorant knee-jerk response that couldn't be further from the truth.

the rams and raiders left the city due to outdated stadiums that couldn't produce the revenue streams of modern facilities as well as carpetbagging, negligent owners. this is no different than what happened with the houston oilers moving to tennessee, the cleveland browns moving to baltimore, the baltimore colts moving to indianapolis, the st. louis football cardinals moving to phoenix, and so forth.

all of this was discussed earlier in this thread. just read the previous couple of pages to see what i mean.
and it has taken 17 or 18 years for L.A. to solve the stadium issue meanwhile it did not take nearly as long for those other cities
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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LA will never get a team, it holds too much value to the league as a hammer to get stadiums and favorable lease terms done for the other cities that have already proved their ability to support football unlike the lackadaisical support LA offered up for the other 3 teams that left. They don't need the TV ratings potential the market has to offer because the football fans their will be watching other games anyways...no soup for you.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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new york city doesnt have one....neither does the city of dallas.......
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These are just ridiculous statements... Who cares if the stadiums are not in the actual city?

It's a waste of a huge amount of space and parking that the city could use for something more important. They can put the stadiums in the boonies all they want...

The teams are still Dallas and NY!
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so my statement is ridiculous because the largest city in the USA doesnt have a football team? uhhh ok.......................


and they have put em in the boonies....u ever heard of green bay auburn hills,pontiac or glendale? theyre not large cities
I think you miss the point

Those cities do have team - even though they aren't located in the actual "city" ..... they are placed in the metro area where they can get access to the population centers around a city .... also taken into consideration is transportation infrastructure, land availability & cost, etc.

In case you haven't noticed, land in NYC is expensive ....... very, very expensive ....... football stadiums are kind of a limited use project, take up a ton of space and require even more space for parking ..... do you think if NYC was the size of Boise that there would be a team located in north jersey - not a chance

The fact that it's very easy access to the city and all of the people who live in the whole area because of the city is the very reason there are not 1, but 2 teams in north jersey - they are very much NYCs teams

Phoenix is larger than Dallas - you didn't shout about Phoenix never having a team - even when they were the phoenix cardinals they played in Tempe (which is smaller than Glendale) ....... and although Phoenix is much easier to develop in than a place like NYC, it still made sense to build in the current location for what they wanted to do ...... fwiw, glendale is the 4th largest city in the state - directly borders the largest city in the state and is 30-40 minutes away from the 3rd largest city in the state ...... but make no mistake about it, the 1st, 3rd and 4th largest city in AZ are all really phoenix
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