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Old 08-14-2017, 11:35 PM
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Lets make them both 28 here. At the age of 28 which QB would you pick to turn around a loosing franchise and why?

Old 08-15-2017, 05:38 AM
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Brady. His TD to turnover ratio was much better than Manning. Brady is 456/152 while Manning was 539/251. Otherwise, their stats were similar. QB ratings were similar.

Brady is also a winner while Manning did not do as well in the playoffs. Manning also tended to throw his teammates under the bus after a loss...
Old 08-15-2017, 06:57 AM
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How will Manning or Brady make a loose team tighter?
Old 08-15-2017, 07:50 AM
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Brady but with Belichek as coach
Old 08-15-2017, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by skinsguy37 View Post
How will Manning or Brady make a loose team tighter?
Sometimes losing makes an already too loose of a team lose even more. However, other times a loose team actually means they're a tight team and may just help them win more.
Old 08-15-2017, 10:01 AM
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I am more convinced of Manning being able to adapt to a different system than Brady sans Belichek.
Old 08-15-2017, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dissenter View Post
I am more convinced of Manning being able to adapt to a different system than Brady sans Belichek.
As much as I love and respect Manning, he didn't do well under a new system his last year, even though his team won a Super Bowl. How much of that was he age and how much was the new system we'll never know.

Either one of them at 28 would have been great for any team. If I had to pick, I'd go with Peyton. His teams without him were usually pretty horrid, while Tom's Patriots seemed to keep right on clicking when he was down.
Old 08-15-2017, 02:40 PM
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There is no comparison whatsoever particularly post season Brady vs post season Manning


Brady post season record 25-9

Manning post season record 14-13

One and done in the playoffs? Manning wins that one with 9.....Brady only 2 times failed to get past the first game in the playoffs

I also don't get where people think Manning would be able to "adapt" to a new system better than Brady...

Manning pretty much played "one system" his whole career....including his record breaking year under Fox in Denver....when finally asked to play a "different system" under Kubiak he was statistically the WORST QB IN FOOTBALL his last year in the league....maybe it was mostly injury but he certainly didn't prove that he could play a different system.

Brady meanwhile, though he has played for the same head coach his whole career has evolved along with his offense and anyone who follows the Pats knows the offense has changed drastically from 2001 until now going from run heavy to dink and dunk to west coast to vertical to multiple...

Want to emphasize the run and go play action? Check... Brady has done it and thrived

Want to go empty set backfield and throw all over the field? Check...Brady has done it and thrived

Want to go 12 personnel with 2 TE's? Check....Brady has done it and thrived

Want to throw downfield, outside the numbers? Check (see Randy Moss years) Brady has done it and thrived

I don't understand how anyone who watches the Patriots would think Brady would not thrive in ANY system, he has shown through out the years that he can run ANY offense because the Patriots can trot out ANY offense and do depending on the team and game plan.

Final point, if you are taking a QB to turn around a "loosing" franchise, you probably don't have great talent at the skill positions...

If anyone HONESTLY believes Peyton did more with less talent than Brady they are kidding themselves...

Manning has had TWO primary receivers in Harrison(already in) and Reggie Wayne either in HOF or potentially in...a RB in Edge that has a good shot at HOF not to mention elite receiving talent in Denver for his record breaking season

Brady had Moss for 3 seasons, only 2 productive ones, Gronk who is best ever when healthy (i.e. not often) and then a bunch of cast offs and converted college QB's that he throws to...
Old 08-15-2017, 04:09 PM
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I'd really want to see Brady on a losing team before I made that call. We really have no comparison.. Is Brady "Brady" because of Belichek? because he's always had good talent (if not great) around him? Swap Manning and Brady some of those years.. How would it turn out?
Old 08-15-2017, 07:20 PM
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Motion View Post
Lets make them both 28 here. At the age of 28 which QB would you pick to turn around a loosing franchise and why?
I'd prefer to go with Favre at age 28 over the above 2. At least Favre won an NFL MVP when he was 28. But if I had to go with 2nd best I'd go with Manning. It took Brady until he was 30 to get NFL MVP. Manning already had 2 MVP awards by age 28. I'll trust the MVP committee & I'll also go with maturity.
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