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Old 12-31-2017, 05:56 PM
 
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On head coaches:

It's a fact that most coaches who take a team to a Super Bowl do so fairly rapidly in their tenure with that team. Look at recent history (the last 20 games) at how long it took a coach to get to the Super Bowl with a given team.

Jon Gruden - 1st season
Bill Callahan - 1st season
Gary Kubiak - 1st season
Jim Caldwell - 1st season
Bill Belichik - 2nd season
Dan Quinn - 2nd season
Mike Martz - 2nd season
Brian Billick - 2nd season
Jim Harbaugh - 2nd season
Mike Tomlin - 2nd season
John Fox (Panthers) - 2nd season
Ken Wisenhunt - 2nd season
Dan Reeves (Falcons) - 2nd season
Lovie Smith - 3rd season
Dick Vermeil (Rams) - 3rd season
John Fox (Broncos) - 3rd season
Mike Shanahan - 3rd season
Jim Fassell - 4th season
Pete Carroll - 4th season
Tom Coughlin - 4th season
Bill Cowher - 4th season
Sean Payton - 4th season
John Harbaugh - 5th season
Mike McCarthy - 5th season
Ron Rivera - 5th season
Mike Holmgren (Packers) - 5th season
Tony Dungy - 5th season
Jeff Fisher - 5th season
Andy Reid - 6th season
Mike Holmgren (Seahawks) - 7th season

Out of 30 individual coach tenures, 13 saw their team the Super Bowl within two seasons; 17 within three seasons; 22 within four seasons. And it's mostly the same story in the first 2 decades of the Super Bowl era.

There's a reasonable case to be made that if a coach does not show substantial success within three seasons, that it is usually time to move on.
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Old 12-31-2017, 06:32 PM
 
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Del Rio is a surprise, but it makes me think the Raiders may have Jon Gruden corralled a second time, after Gruden left Oakland high and dry, and wound up trouncing them in the Super Bowl his first year at Tampa. I thought Pagano wasn't coming back. Well he isn't now, but I thought it was already announced a long time ago he wouldn't be back in Indy. But it sounds as though Hue Jackson will be back and John Fox won't.
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Old 12-31-2017, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Two Rivers, Wisconsin
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There is talk in the comment section at Packers.com about Del Rio, they want him to replace Capers the DC.
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Old 12-31-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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Forgot one more too that is likely to happen; sounds as though Vance Joseph is toast after just one year in Denver. John Elway is doing some strange things- I'm not understanding one year head coaching coaching hires most of the time, especially for a team with some of the worst QBs in the league- but I also, don't know why on earth Joseph got the job to begin with- maybe Elway is professing he screwed up with ever hiring him in the first place.
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Old 12-31-2017, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Two Rivers, Wisconsin
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Davis was so fast with Del Rio, right after the game, ESPN is announcing Gruden going to the Raiders. It isn't official yet probably but ESPN says he is.

Interesting he'll be doing a wild card game, and announcers get information about teams, I would think those AFC teams wouldn't be happy.
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Old 12-31-2017, 08:59 PM
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Del Rio gets a DC job either for 2018 or 2019. Dean Pees is retiring (heavily rumored) and Dom Capers will not be coming back. That is going to open up 2 jobs with Baltimore and Green Bay. There may be more too.

So we now have openings in Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Oakland and New York (Giants).
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Old 12-31-2017, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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I know Baltimore will never fire him, but I think Harbaugh should at least get some heat.

This is the 4th time in 5 seasons since they won the 2013 Super Bowl that they have failed to make the playoffs. Their QB (Flacco) has regressed.....significantly each season since, and granted they have had a lot of injuries, especially the last 3 seasons, they've had some epic choke jobs, especially in the 4th quarter. For a franchise that has been known for it's defense and subpar QB play, having a defense that $#!ts the bed in the 4th quarter of important games is inexcusable, even moreso when they have the lead.

Last year in Pittsburgh they had a 10 point 4th quarter lead which would have basically won them the division (since they would've won the tiebreaker), and they lost on basically the last play of the game. This year in Pittsburgh they had an even BIGGER 4th quarter lead (11 to begin the 4th and still at 9 with 6:30 to play in the 4th), and lost with under a minute to play. Today (or last year depending on when you are reading this ) after trailing for the majority of the game at home against a Bengals team that has phoned it in since Thanksgiving, they take a late 4th quarter lead and what happens?? They allow the Bengals and Andy &^%$king Dalton to march down the field in a 2 minute drill and complete a 4th & 12 for the game winning touchdown of course after they can't kill the ball because Flacco can't ^%$^king throw the ball anymore!!!! They should draft a QB with their first pick (will be #16 overall), have Flacco groom him, and than if they miss the playoffs again next year, start over with a new coach and whichever QB they end up drafting. It's a professional business, you can only sit on your championships for so many years.
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Old 01-01-2018, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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There is talk in the comment section at Packers.com about Del Rio, they want him to replace Capers the DC.
he shouldn't have to wait long until he finds another job
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Old 01-01-2018, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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ESPN: signs point to Jon Gruden as next coach

Oakland Raiders fire coach Jack Del Rio

The firing comes after Del Rio signed a 4-year contract extension last offseason.....

Last edited by BucFan; 01-01-2018 at 05:27 AM..
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:34 AM
 
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Detroit just fired Jim Cladwell. So now we have Oakland, Detroit, Indianapolis, Cincinnati and New York (Giants) all looking for coaches going into the 2018 season.
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