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Old 11-04-2017, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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The Buccaneers have gone downhill since they fired Lovie Smith. Same situation with the Bears. When they fired Lovie Smith, they have gone down the wrong path.

I also want to add Todd Bowles of the Jets and John Fox of the Bears as well on the coaches hot seats.


Lovie Smith stunk it up and he's stinking it up in Illinois.
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Old 11-04-2017, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA and Washington, DC
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Lovie Smith stunk it up and he's stinking it up in Illinois.
The Bucs were showing progression in Lovie’s second year. He may not be a great coach but firing a coach who the team was responding to was not a good idea. Same reason I thought the Bears were better off keeping John Fox because he didn’t lose that team last year.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Who's on it?

I nominate Bucs' Dirk Koetter.

Peter Principle. Never should have gotten the job in the first place. We in Tampa are on a coaching carousel. Raheem Morris, Greg Schiano, Lovie Smith, and now Dirk.

We've got some good players - can't see why this team is struggling.

QB is a little flaky on the field. Defense isn't mean enough.

Gotta think the HC is the problem. This team, with these players, would win under a decent HC.


Imagine the Bucs with Sean McVay or even Todd Bowles heading things up. Koetter is a pretty good OC but he's not HC material, he's Norv Turner, has no business going beyond just calling plays.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The Buccaneers have gone downhill since they fired Lovie Smith. Same situation with the Bears. When they fired Lovie Smith, they have gone down the wrong path.

I also want to add Todd Bowles of the Jets and John Fox of the Bears as well on the coaches hot seats.

Todd Bowles has done more to extricate himself from the hot seat than any other coach. The Jets were being predicted to win 2 or 3 games all season long, they've somehow managed to not be terrible and even play well most of the season despite all the roster turnover. If anything he's showing himself to be a good head coach by keeping things together over there, especially with 38 year old Josh McCown at QB and a bunch of rubbish at WR on the team.


No way can you fire that guy after he pulled that team together, and if they did, someone else would be offering him a HC job PDQ.






Todd Bowles is the right man to be in charge of Jets
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No matter what happens to Todd Bowles in two months, this is undeniable: Anyone who believes that this man shouldn’t lead the Jets into the next phase of their rebuilding project is a damn fool.
Forget his stoic exterior and sleep-inducing public remarks. Who cares about his boring press conferences? Never mind that he isn’t a showman or entertainer.




The guy can flat-out lead, inspire and coach.




The Jets (4-5) exhibited plenty of toughness and fight in a 34-21 primetime beatdown of the Bills Thursday to snap a three-game slide to keep them relevant. Sooner or later, the clueless contingent ready to move on from Bowles will wake up and realize what is happening here. The guy hasn’t exactly been armed with a who’s who of talent. He’s literally never made one excuse.








He kept his mouth shut and worked. Now, a team believed to have one of the league’s most barren rosters is following his lead. Work. Work every day. Work every game. Keep your mouth shut and work.
“He told us what type of year this was going to be,” right tackle Kelvin Beachum said. “He told us what we needed to do to be successful… That’s something that he’s talked about all year. That’s something that we’ve believed all year. He’s told us what we needed to do to be successful and win. I told you guys early on that guys in this locker room were going to find a way to get it done.




We didn’t know how, we didn’t know when, we didn’t where, but these guys are determined, hungry and understand the task at hand. Coach Bowles has instilled that type of mindset into this team.”


Firing Bowles at this point would be idiotic, even by usual Jets standards.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:53 AM
 
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.Koetter is a pretty good OC but he's not HC material, he's Norv Turner, has no business going beyond just calling plays.
He's just a tad one dimensional as evidenced by the fact the Bucs have one of the worst rushing stats in the league and are 2nd in passing, despite the presence of players like RB Doug Martin. Winston's QB rating is a dumpster fire-like 88 and is near the bottom for all starters.
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA and Washington, DC
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Todd Bowles has done more to extricate himself from the hot seat than any other coach. The Jets were being predicted to win 2 or 3 games all season long, they've somehow managed to not be terrible and even play well most of the season despite all the roster turnover. If anything he's showing himself to be a good head coach by keeping things together over there, especially with 38 year old Josh McCown at QB and a bunch of rubbish at WR on the team.


No way can you fire that guy after he pulled that team together, and if they did, someone else would be offering him a HC job PDQ.






Todd Bowles is the right man to be in charge of Jets




Firing Bowles at this point would be idiotic, even by usual Jets standards.
I thought Bowles should have been fired after that MNF game last year against the Colts where it was obvious the team quit. But he has coached this team to exceed expectation this year despite a clear lack of talent. He should be safe for now.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Koetter put another nail in his coaching coffin ----team lost composure, got in fights, penalties for basic stuff, punt blocked.....stupid pregame speech by franchise Qb.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/w...game-speeches/
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Here or There
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As a Giants fan, let me add Ben McAdoo to the list. During the off week, there was discussion that he was losing or had lost the locker room. That performance against the Rams suggests that he might have. From an owner's perspective, that might have been a scorched earth game, in which everything must be burned to the ground now--coach, GM, turf crew, blimp guy...
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Old 11-06-2017, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Two Rivers, Wisconsin
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Is this all on McAdoo or are there deeper issues? They made the playoffs last year, have injury issues this year, should he have kept the play calling? I'm not up to speed on what is going on really.
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Old 11-06-2017, 07:33 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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How many members of the Giants' coaching staff are holdovers from Coughlin's tenure?
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