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Old 12-08-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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the raiders are going to need a new stadium IN LAS VEGAS, not in oakland.

as for some of the other stadiums, its more than just some needing renovating over replacement, and its more than just more revenue. sometimes these stadiums are old and at the end of their lives, and need structural renovation which often times is more expansive than just building a new stadium.

and since that is usually the case, you may as well add some amenities to the new stadium while it is being built when it doesnt cost any extra to do so. and it is for the fans as well as the owners. make the fans happy, and they do spend money at the game.

and remember these venues are not just used for a few games a year, concerts, off road events, monster truck events, political events, and other events go on the calendar as well.

and how many of these newer stadiums are open to the public when the teams are not there? the AT&T stadium in texas has restaurants and shops along the outer circle, do you really think they are closed when the stadium is shut down? it wouldnt make sense to only open up the restaurants for eight games per year. i suspect that is how jerry jones is paying for the stadium in addition to what he gets from advertising contracts.
One question. Do you think the Saints need a new stadium?
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:54 PM
 
Location: AriZona
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I think they are a complete waste of money, mostly taxpayer money too in most cases.

The NFL does not generate the majority of it's revenue through ticket sales to games. So why do they need the best state of the art stadium?
In most cases, they don't.

However, it's what owners do in order to generate more money into their already overloaded pockets. It's easier to attempt to push these super stadiums in America because of our love of football.

Americans usually want everything bigger, better & shinier, as evidenced by our bigger housing, cars, trucks and all other possessions and toys! It's, unfortunately, who we are and what we do -- most of the time.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:57 PM
 
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One reason why Bob Kraft is one of the 2 or 3 best/smartest owners in the NFL is how he handled his stadium. He built it with his own money. The state kicked in some money to make road upgrades to route one (that were already needed regardless of a new stadium). He owns all of the parking lots around the stadium. He also built a large retail complex adjacent to the stadium so he gets to keep all of that revenue.

It is annoying when you travel somewhere and look at your rental car bill, or hotel receipt and see a stadium tax on it - the public should not be on the hook to pay for these stadiums.

It's also not quite fair that the NFL pushes teams to have brand new stadiums yet only a small number of teams actually get to host the Super Bowl and enjoy the economic benefit it brings to a city and metro area.
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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I think you are guaranteed a super bowl these days no matter where you are if you build a new stadium. Are you guaranteed more than one? Probably not. But I do think you at least get one. I would hope anyway.
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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A city like Indianapolis needs a modern stadium a lot more than a city like San Francisco, or Washington, D.C. would. San Francisco and DC actually are tourist draws and bring in a large number of out of state visitors, Indianapolis on the other hand is not even close to being on their level for reasons for people to visit.
So can understand why Indianapolis would be willing to shell out the money - they need to give people a reason to visit.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:05 PM
 
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One question. Do you think the Saints need a new stadium?
i dont know. does it fit the needs of the saints? how old is the stadium? what condition is the stadium in? can the stadium be expanded to fit the future needs of the saints and the city of new orleans? how is the infrastructure around the stadium?
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:22 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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i dont know. does it fit the needs of the saints? how old is the stadium? what condition is the stadium in? can the stadium be expanded to fit the future needs of the saints and the city of new orleans? how is the infrastructure around the stadium?
The Stadium(The Superdome) was built in the late 1960s
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:24 AM
 
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The Stadium(The Superdome) was built in the late 1960s
tahts nice, so what condition is the stadium in? and what about the rest of the questions i asked? one bit of information means nothing overall.
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:49 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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tahts nice, so what condition is the stadium in? and what about the rest of the questions i asked? one bit of information means nothing overall.
I haven't been in the dome much although its not bad
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Old 12-09-2017, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Are These New NFL Stadiums That Are Were/Built Actaullh Worth Having?
I had a chance to tour ATT Stadium (Jerry's Stadium) a couple of months ago and it was very nice - I hear Mercedes in ATL is even nicer.

I sure hope my city (Tampa/STP) doesn't go bankrupt building one of those monstrosities. They're nice, they get key games (like Super Bowls, College Bowl Championships), but they take taxpayer money to build.

I doubt if our voters would allow it. The baseball team is looking for a stadium as well and it'll be interesting if the taxpayers vote for that as well and may just let the team haul ass to another city that will pay for it.


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