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Old 02-05-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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2- Hail mary play... Hogan got wiped out of the play about 15 yards down the field and never got back over to where the ball landed. Should have been illegal contact.
I saw that as well. I'm not sure if Brady had rolled out of the pocket or not but if he did I think it may be legal in that situation to blow up a receiver as long as the ball is not yet in the air because the QB could be deemed a runner by rule. This is at least what was explained to me when Richard Sherman blew up a Bills receiver in the Monday Night game a couple years ago as Taylor was scrambling out of the pocket.

 
Old 02-05-2018, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Philly Special... probably not so special... I heard Foles say they ran it in high school... also - scroll the video to the 2:00 mark...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0MJKn_Wa7g
 
Old 02-05-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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I saw that as well. I'm not sure if Brady had rolled out of the pocket or not but if he did I think it may be legal in that situation to blow up a receiver as long as the ball is not yet in the air because the QB could be deemed a runner by rule. This is at least what was explained to me when Richard Sherman blew up a Bills receiver in the Monday Night game a couple years ago as Taylor was scrambling out of the pocket.
I heard that if it's a Hail Mary the refs will pretty much stuff the whistles in their pockets. There have been historically very few PI's on such plays.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Two Rivers, Wisconsin
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They don't call PI on those Hail Mary's or Aaron wouldn't have the number of completions he does on those. Two of the three, there were borderline push offs.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 04:02 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Honestly -- and NOT simply because I'm an Eagles fan -- I think they made the right call on both the touchdowns that were reviewed. On the first one, technically, the standard is the ruling on the field should stand in the absence of clear evidence to overturn it. I think that's what you have to keep in mind here. I didn't see a clear wobble. Clement clearly HAD the ball in his hands and got two feet down -- the third step looked to have made contact with the end line, but at that point it didn't matter. Did he really have "possession"? In the absence of visual evidence otherwise, I think the clear answer is always "yes." You assume that someone who has a football in their hands is in possession of it, unless they're clearly juggling it - which wasn't the case here.

On the second one, this is even more clearly a touchdown, in keeping with the spirit of the game, if not the rules. Ertz had it, got two feet down, and broke the plane. He's a runner. He already caught the ball. No different at that point than if he'd received a handoff.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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one of them wasn't a TD under the rule......the one that when he got control of the ball his foot was touching the line.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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one of them wasn't a TD under the rule......the one that when he got control of the ball his foot was touching the line.
He had possession and 2 feet down, before the third step made contact with the end line.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 04:10 PM
 
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Honestly -- and NOT simply because I'm an Eagles fan -- I think they made the right call on both the touchdowns that were reviewed. On the first one, technically, the standard is the ruling on the field should stand in the absence of clear evidence to overturn it. I think that's what you have to keep in mind here. I didn't see a clear wobble. Clement clearly HAD the ball in his hands and got two feet down -- the third step looked to have made contact with the end line, but at that point it didn't matter. Did he really have "possession"? In the absence of visual evidence otherwise, I think the clear answer is always "yes." You assume that someone who has a football in their hands is in possession of it, unless they're clearly juggling it - which wasn't the case here.

On the second one, this is even more clearly a touchdown, in keeping with the spirit of the game, if not the rules. Ertz had it, got two feet down, and broke the plane. He's a runner. He already caught the ball. No different at that point than if he'd received a handoff.
Ertz's was most definitely a TD, not even close. Clements on the other hand, based on so many calls this year, was not. Once he gained control after the ball shift (control) only one foot landed in bounds. BUT, had to be irrefutable evidence to overturn the call on the field, and there really wasn't. If it was ruled incomplete I don't think they would have overturned it to a TD.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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Ertz's was most definitely a TD, not even close. Clements on the other hand, based on so many calls this year, was not. Once he gained control after the ball shift (control) only one foot landed in bounds. BUT, had to be irrefutable evidence to overturn the call on the field, and there really wasn't. If it was ruled incomplete I don't think they would have overturned it to a TD.


that is probably accurate




I believe both defenses thought the game may have been tonight


I think for the casual fan thi was a very entertaining SB


As someone posted earlier, this game had the most combined yards of ANY NFL game in history


While it felt like neither team could stop the other, that fact actually still surprised me


Philadelphia Eagles Super Bowl and World Champions


Pederson has got some balls
 
Old 02-05-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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He had possession and 2 feet down, before the third step made contact with the end line.
The ball was moving the whole time on the Clement TD and per the rule that's not a TD. I am not saying I agree with the rule. Had this been a regular season game, the TD gets overturned.
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