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Old 07-10-2018, 06:56 AM
Status: "Beach time!" (set 19 days ago)
 
Location: Fredericksburg/Virginia Beach, VA
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I've been following the Broncos since the AFL's earliest days, but whenever San Diego got in contention and Denver was out of it, I'd always pull for San Diego.
You and I have been talking sports here for years and it has finally happened: we disagree on something. It was bound to happen sooner or later, I guess! I cannot bring myself to root for rivals. The only time I root for a rival is if the rival winning somehow directly benefits the Broncos. Other than that, I cannot bring myself to do it. Especially when it comes to the playoffs. When the Broncos had some lean years and the Chargers were pretty dominant in the regular season it was always a nice consolation prize when they'd have the most head scratching breakdowns in the post season. Last year was such a wreck for the Broncos and there were few moments along the way worth remembering. The Titans comeback win over the Chiefs in the playoffs was arguably the best moment of the 2017 for me.


If I can't watch my team succeed I certainly don't want to watch any of their rivals succeed either!


Having said all that, Fouts was right to make the correction.
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Old 07-10-2018, 10:35 AM
 
Location: AriZona
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I've been following the Broncos since the AFL's earliest days, but whenever San Diego got in contention and Denver was out of it, I'd always pull for San Diego. Fouts is one of the best color man in the business. He's also class-on and off the field.
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You and I have been talking sports here for years and it has finally happened: we disagree on something. It was bound to happen sooner or later, I guess! I cannot bring myself to root for rivals. The only time I root for a rival is if the rival winning somehow directly benefits the Broncos. Other than that, I cannot bring myself to do it. Especially when it comes to the playoffs. When the Broncos had some lean years and the Chargers were pretty dominant in the regular season it was always a nice consolation prize when they'd have the most head scratching breakdowns in the post season. Last year was such a wreck for the Broncos and there were few moments along the way worth remembering. The Titans comeback win over the Chiefs in the playoffs was arguably the best moment of the 2017 for me.


If I can't watch my team succeed I certainly don't want to watch any of their rivals succeed either!


Having said all that, Fouts was right to make the correction.
I hear what you're saying, Mr Football, and I'm all about my Errant Zone Cards until they totally collapse -- which lately has been early and often.

In their wake, I also seriously cannot pull for the other contenders in the NFC West Division, especially Saint Pete and the Squawks. The Santa Clara Niners have been a dud for a while, but this next year with their QB, Jiminy Whiz, they may just get a toehold in the Division. The LA Lambs are the other team who will bleat loudly and attempt to rock that boat as well.

However, I wholeheartedly respect what HH is saying, and the very closest I can come to that would to do my annual Bandwagon Leap onto a decent outside-the-Division contender!

Lastly, I have nothing but admiration, understanding and compassion for Dan Fouts, and for what he's indicating. He's a totally cool dude and most excellent blast-from-the-past QB.
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Old 07-10-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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I've been a fan and a voracious reader of pro football, particularly the American Football League teams from 1960-1968. San Diego appeared in five of the first six AFL championship games. Sid Gilman brought strong organizational skills and offensive smarts to the passing game. Now if you're thinking back to Philip Rivers, well, heh, no problem there. The Broncos rivalry with the Oakland Raiders and the Dallas Texans/Kansas City Chiefs can only be classified by the hammer and nail; the Broncos were the nail, and they were the hammer. In the 20 games with the Broncos and the Chiefs, the Broncos won just once-and that was when Mac Speedie took over from the fired Jack Faulkner after the broncos got pasted by the Patriots 39-10 in week 4 of the 1964 season(the third Bronco game I ever went to) The Raiders rivalry was almost as bad, I'll have to look it up but IIRC the total was 17-2-1 tie--Raiders.


The Broncos had better success with the Chargers, I'm thinking the Broncos won 5 games out of 20. It was a different time, a different era. There were some nasty incidents with the Raiders and the Chiefs, but you didn't have the thuggery with first Gilman's Chargers, then Harlan Svare, then Don Coryell. The best battles in my memory regarding Chargers and Bronco games was when Don Coryell had that intense look on his face like he had to have an emergency colonoscopy-and there is defensive coordinator Joe Collier of the Broncos, with that big notebook fastened by those spandex pants he always wore pacing the sidelines as well. I loved that rivalry, those games were like chess matches. The most memorable chess match was Denver shutting out San Diego 7-0 in week 5 of the 1979 season. I was in the stands and saw Fouts throw his helmet clear across the bench near games end after being stuffed at the goal line on 4th and a foot.. Orange Crush defense--yea baby! Another memorable game was in 1985 when Louie Wright blocked a field goal attempt in OT and ran 60 some yards for a touchdown in overtime. I'll dm a message to you about THAT night, whew!!



It's been years since I've been to a game in San Diego, obviously won't now. I'd wear Bronco orange and trust me, a good portion of the crowd were Bronco fans. I went to 9 games at Jack Murphy Stadium including 2 SB's(yea I know what the real name is)-- a friendly rivalry would be putting it mildly! 70 degrees, slight breeze, 5'11" blonde ladies walking around the parking lot in bunches. The Charger fans back in the late 1970's had a different view of life! Like one Charger fan remarked to me a couple decades ago--"Naw, I'm not into trash talking, don't have time for that. I spend my time looking at the blondes, enjoying that ocean breeze, and yea--there's the game, I guess!"

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Old 07-10-2018, 04:39 PM
 
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You're right about the team name usually belonging to the team ownership. It's always possible that the city might have been involved in some way as well.

I'm just believing that some compromise could be reached by all parties involved in case of any future split between ownership of team and city -- regarding the identity of the name and its sentimental value to the city and fans. I'm advocating for some contingency/language within a city/owners contract so that all parties involved will be satisfied.
Agreed. Especially if taxpayers foot the bill for stadiums / facilities.
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Old 07-10-2018, 04:43 PM
 
Location: AriZona
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Agreed. Especially if taxpayers foot the bill for stadiums / facilities.
Absolutely, and as long as all parties are in agreement about what will become of the team name once there is a split of some kind.
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Old 07-22-2018, 02:49 AM
 
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I agree with him and I never liked the move and still don't think it will work.
I do as well.

I was at The Murph for the game where they included Fouts' retirement 'ceremony' as part of the afternoon. The fans loved him. It was electric. There was a special relationship between Fouts and the fans. That day, Spanos came to the podium under a chorus of boos.
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Old 08-03-2018, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Murrieta, CA
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I am with Dan. I am still bitter and can't even say L.A. Chargers out loud. Those were the best years: Fouts, JJ, Kellen Winslow, Rolf B. etc.

So...looking at predictions a bunch of sites have picked L.A. (boo) Chargers (yeah) finishing first in their division. I know they finished strong last year and the hope is that will continue.

Go Chargers!
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Old 08-06-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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AFC West guy here and i don't like my Broncos having to play the Chargers in that small soccer stadium for the next two seasons. Also i think its a tragedy that San Diego lost its team again to LA.(think SD. Clippers) Fortunately there are no nearby large markets to steal my Broncos, Nuggets, Rockies and Avs.

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Old 08-10-2018, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I hated the move by the Chargers as well...
I do too and I will be honest; while I dislike him a little bit now but I agree with him although I didnít like I when he blasted the radio host.
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