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Old 09-10-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I hated that they ever left. As a Chiefs fans, I always thought San Diego was a great rivalry and they seemed to have a solid fan base. While it was enjoyable watching the Chiefs beat the Chargers in front of 80-90% Chiefs fans on TV, this is not good for the NFL.

I don't understand how the NFL thought it was a good idea to move two teams in two relatively large markets (San Diego and St Louis) and destroy the NFL fanbases in these two cities.

The Chargers can't draw anybody, even to a 25,000 seat soccer stadium and it remains to be seen if the Rams can draw fans consistently.

The Rams at least have a history in LA. But move the Chargers back to SD.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:33 AM
 
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Rams in LA will work. But yeah, Chargers, that's a tough sell. They should move back.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: AriZona
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I hated that they ever left. As a Chiefs fans, I always thought San Diego was a great rivalry and they seemed to have a solid fan base. While it was enjoyable watching the Chiefs beat the Chargers in front of 80-90% Chiefs fans on TV, this is not good for the NFL.

I don't understand how the NFL thought it was a good idea to move two teams in two relatively large markets (San Diego and St Louis) and destroy the NFL fanbases in these two cities.

The Chargers can't draw anybody, even to a 25,000 seat soccer stadium and it remains to be seen if the Rams can draw fans consistently.

The Rams at least have a history in LA. But move the Chargers back to SD.
One thing for sure: Dan Fouts agrees with you, and so do many Chargers fans.
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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I hated that they ever left. As a Chiefs fans, I always thought San Diego was a great rivalry and they seemed to have a solid fan base. While it was enjoyable watching the Chiefs beat the Chargers in front of 80-90% Chiefs fans on TV, this is not good for the NFL.

I don't understand how the NFL thought it was a good idea to move two teams in two relatively large markets (San Diego and St Louis) and destroy the NFL fanbases in these two cities.

The Chargers can't draw anybody, even to a 25,000 seat soccer stadium and it remains to be seen if the Rams can draw fans consistently.

The Rams at least have a history in LA. But move the Chargers back to SD.
I don’t think San Diego will dirty their hands with any team that The Spanos family owns. Spanos essentially gave San Diego the finger on the way out and now it’s San Diego’s turn to return that gesture by refusing to do business with Spanos. I’m 100% on San Diego’s side with this one.
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: southern california
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We don’t want them
a bad renter is a blessing when he leaves
If he does not like the accommodations he can go build his own Taj Mahal in Los Angeles
See if the tax payers of Los Angeles are willing to pay for it
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Old 09-10-2018, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I never liked the move and I still don’t
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:37 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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We don’t want them
a bad renter is a blessing when he leaves
If he does not like the accommodations he can go build his own Taj Mahal in Los Angeles
See if the tax payers of Los Angeles are willing to pay for it
What are you talking about? The new stadium in Inglewood is under construction and the Chargers will share it with the Rams...no LA taxpayer money needed. It'll get double the use of any other NFL stadium in the country.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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The Chargers played their first season in LA so they have history there too, just not enough for anyone to remember or care.

The league should have let the Raiders move back to LA since that's where most of their fan base is anyway, and let Vegas have the Rams or maybe the Jaguars. But at least the Raiders will be closer to their fan base than they are in the Bay area.
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Old 09-12-2018, 12:02 AM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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The NFL balance has swung too heavily to LA IMO. As in, no team for decades, then all of a sudden two teams. Not that LA can't digest both, (because the metro is so large it can), but from a media perspective, it is another question.

I understand Spanos is not popular in SD, and perhaps the only route back to America's finest city would be for Spanos to sell.

But then there is the stadium issue. JM stadium is probably the equivalent of Oakland Coliseum in meeting today's NFL standards. This is a big hurdle, no doubt.

I would expect the Chargers could only return to San Diego with new ownership and a new stadium. The two of those happening simultaneously is unlikely. In the meantime, the Chargers are most certainly looking forward to moving out of their small soccer stadium and competing in Inglewood.
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Old 09-12-2018, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I am about to say something I think is going to be wildly unpopular. While the Chargers in L.A. may not be the right fit, the Chargers in San Diego wasn't either. San Diego was an awful NFL city. OP referenced 80% Chiefs fans in stadium of 25,000. Qualcom has a capacity of around 65,000 and when the Chargers played there that place was routinely orange during Broncos game, black during Raiders games. It's not like the team left a city that supported it.


During the NFL's "blackout policy" days the Chargers were blacked out locally multiple times every season. (The Raiders had the same problem, raising a fair question about just how loyal their fans are. I believe the extend of Raider fandom is greatly overstated by NFL talking heads.) The 2007 season's wild card game between the Chargers and Titans was nearly blacked out, but the team pulled some strings and had the game shown. What kind of fan base allows a playoff game to risk getting blacked out?


The Chargers had some great players and moments in San Diego but this era of San Diego residents did not embrace the team on a level that warranted them staying in place. I know Spanos had one foot out the door long before the team actually left. I know there aren't too many people who are willing to consider a billionaire's perspective in the matter, but I will. Has anyone ever given any thought as to why Spanos started itching to relocate? Now I don't think he made the smartest decision to move to L.A. either, but it has been obvious for a long time: San Diego is not an NFL city. An NFL city supports its team and say what you will about public money funding a stadium, but an NFL city ponies up. San Diego not only didn't support its team but the city leadership couldn't get out of their own way.


I wonder how successful the Los Angeles Chargers will be once they shack up with the Rams. If it's not successful it won't surprise me to see them looking around at other potential locations. San Antonio and St. Louis come readily to mind. I don't necessarily like any of those options, and hope Los Angeles does work out for the Chargers. Whatever the case, I don't blame them for looking for a city that would actually support them.
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