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Old 12-10-2018, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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uh, trick question?
How could you Not go with Green Bay..
Easily. What are you going to have in Green Bay when Rodgers is done? Rodgers is the heart and soul of the Green Bay Packers. If he goes down with injury, the Packers go down. Aaron is 35 years old. If I'm an up and coming head coach, I want to choose a team that has a young, promising quarterback like what Baker Mayfield seems to be. Rodgers has had a great career, but he's heading toward the twilight of his career. We all can look at Tom Brady and say, "Well, Brady is 41 and doesn't look like he's slowing down. Why can't Rodgers or any other quarterback play well into his 40's?" Maybe Rodgers can play well into his 40's, but don't count on it. I think the Browns have more going for them than the Packers have at the moment.
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Easily. What are you going to have in Green Bay when Rodgers is done? Rodgers is the heart and soul of the Green Bay Packers. If he goes down with injury, the Packers go down. Aaron is 35 years old. If I'm an up and coming head coach, I want to choose a team that has a young, promising quarterback like what Baker Mayfield seems to be. Rodgers has had a great career, but he's heading toward the twilight of his career. We all can look at Tom Brady and say, "Well, Brady is 41 and doesn't look like he's slowing down. Why can't Rodgers or any other quarterback play well into his 40's?" Maybe Rodgers can play well into his 40's, but don't count on it. I think the Browns have more going for them than the Packers have at the moment.
You have a valid QB argument but you have to look beyond the QB position and look at the front office. The Packers have been a consistent contender since the early 90s... the front office they have gives me confidence they will continue to be successful even after Rodgers is gone. i just can't say the same about the Browns.
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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The mistake by the lake, No. Green Bay is the better choice.
I see you are trying to be witty, but for this conversation, the Browns have a LOT going for them, several high draft picks coming up in 2019 as well. With the right coach and with the AFC North on the decline, the Browns are in control of their own destiny.
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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You have a valid QB argument but you have to look beyond the QB position and look at the front office. The Packers have been a consistent contender since the early 90s... the front office they have gives me confidence they will continue to be successful even after Rodgers is gone. i just can't say the same about the Browns.
Right now, the Packers front office is a mess and very dysfunctional. The GM isn't in charge of the coaching search, the GM also has to answer to some other front office guy who isn't even the VP of Football Operations. At least, the Browns now have a stable front office led by John Dorsey; the only that may turn off candidates is the ownership.

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Old 12-10-2018, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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You have a valid QB argument but you have to look beyond the QB position and look at the front office. The Packers have been a consistent contender since the early 90s... the front office they have gives me confidence they will continue to be successful even after Rodgers is gone. i just can't say the same about the Browns.
Rodgers is brittle. The Packers have been successful for over a quarter-century because they got the QB right. What are the odds they get a third straight All-Timer at QB to succeed Rodgers and keep the gravy train going?

I wouldn't want the Packers job, structure is in disarray and disjointed, Rodgers is one more injury away from finished, roster is not ready to contend right now. Cleveland is young and skilled at every position, with a proven GM and in position to contend with a year more experience. Gimme the Browns!
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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Browns. You have no real expectation of success. You pull an 8-8 season, they'll name you head coach for life.. You pull an 8-8 in Green Bay, they'll be calling for you to be fired.
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Old 12-10-2018, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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You have a valid QB argument but you have to look beyond the QB position and look at the front office. The Packers have been a consistent contender since the early 90s... the front office they have gives me confidence they will continue to be successful even after Rodgers is gone. i just can't say the same about the Browns.
The Packers don't have the same front office as they did in the 90's, and Packer fans like Susan could probably give more incite on the front office. You don't have to look into it that much to see that the front office isn't doing enough to build a complete team. Simply enough, when Rodgers is playing, the Packers win. When he isn't, the Packers don't win. Besides a player or two, what on earth would give you confidence in the Packers once Rodgers is done? I don't see it.
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Old 12-10-2018, 06:21 PM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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You have a valid QB argument but you have to look beyond the QB position and look at the front office. The Packers have been a consistent contender since the early 90s... the front office they have gives me confidence they will continue to be successful even after Rodgers is gone. i just can't say the same about the Browns.
Another way of saying this is...

"The Packers have, since 1992, had the good fortune of having stumbled across a pair of Hall of Fame QBs that no one else wanted."

Favre ('cause, hey, when ya got Chris Miller backed up by Wade Wilson and Billy Joe Tolliver, who the heck needs Brett Favre?) and Aaron I-fell-all-the-way-to-#24 Rodgers. Nice moves, but lucky. After all, the Packers passed on Favre at #19 in 1991 in favor of Vinne Clark. Remember him? That's OK - no one remembers Vinnie. If the Packers were such geniuses at amassing talent, they would have squeezed more than two rings out of 27 years of first-ballot HOFers under center. But there's no particular reason to believe that the Packers are going to just chance upon another Canton-bound passer once Rodgers hangs it up in the near future - they're far more likely to end up with the second coming of Lynn Dickey on the frozen tundra.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Another way of saying this is...

"The Packers have, since 1992, had the good fortune of having stumbled across a pair of Hall of Fame QBs that no one else wanted."

Favre ('cause, hey, when ya got Chris Miller backed up by Wade Wilson and Billy Joe Tolliver, who the heck needs Brett Favre?) and Aaron I-fell-all-the-way-to-#24 Rodgers. Nice moves, but lucky. After all, the Packers passed on Favre at #19 in 1991 in favor of Vinne Clark. Remember him? That's OK - no one remembers Vinnie. If the Packers were such geniuses at amassing talent, they would have squeezed more than two rings out of 27 years of first-ballot HOFers under center. But there's no particular reason to believe that the Packers are going to just chance upon another Canton-bound passer once Rodgers hangs it up in the near future - they're far more likely to end up with the second coming of Lynn Dickey on the frozen tundra.
it's all so terrible...terrible, terrible, terrible
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Rodgers is one more injury away from finished, roster is not ready to contend right now. Cleveland is young and skilled at every position, with a proven GM and in position to contend with a year more experience. Gimme the Browns!
How is Rodgers "one more injury away from finished?" Sure, every NFL player is one injury away, but that's less so with QBs. Rodgers is pretty healthy overall. I haven't heard of any ongoing shoulder/ankle/back etc complaints like some QBs have. His knee he hurt in week 1 is a non-issue now. I don't see how he's 1 injury away from being done. He's not Romo towards the end of his playing career.

I think with some tweaking, the roster actually is ready to contend. Many of the same players today were on the roster the Packers had 2 seasons ago when they made it to the NFC championship game. This team has shown signs of excellence every game. It's been frustrating because they haven't put it together & played a complete game this season in a long time. The potential is right there though. Plus, GB is an organization that's used to winning. Yes, this season has been different & changes have already been made. I expect a nice improvement next year. The team is tighter then people think. Whole team gave McCarthy a standing ovation when he returned one last time. I haven't heard any players come out & speak badly out anybody.

I have a soft spot for the Browns & hope they finally turn it around, but haven't we been saying year after year that next year's going to be better? Yet here we are.
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