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Old 12-15-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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I should bookmark this thread so I can bump it back up in a year or 2 or 3.
Why? Frankly that seems like you're not confident enough to predict anything.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Its beginning to look more and more like the Browns. Just pray to god they don't get too enamored with Gregg Williams and keep him on a the Permanent HC next year.. that's sounds just like something the Browns would do..
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Why? Frankly that seems like you're not confident enough to predict anything.
Because these threads are fun to look back on. It's always fun to click back & read threads on here all the way back to 2007. (Remember the thread about the pistol & Kaep, RG3, Wilson, Cam being the future & QBs like Brady, Brees, Rodgers being on the way out?) So much changes in a year.

If you want a prediction - Packers will be a better team next year. Of course I think my Packers offer a more attractive job for the reasons I mentioned earlier. Really it's 2 organizations at opposite ends.

Packers: an organization used to winning. Expectations are high as soon as you step in the building. As a coach your best chance of leading a team to the playoffs next season is with GB.

Browns: There was a promotion this year where fans got free beer when the team finally won. That tells you something.
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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Because these threads are fun to look back on. It's always fun to click back & read threads on here all the way back to 2007. (Remember the thread about the pistol & Kaep, RG3, Wilson, Cam being the future & QBs like Brady, Brees, Rodgers being on the way out?) So much changes in a year.

If you want a prediction - Packers will be a better team next year. Of course I think my Packers offer a more attractive job for the reasons I mentioned earlier. Really it's 2 organizations at opposite ends.

Packers: an organization used to winning. Expectations are high as soon as you step in the building. As a coach your best chance of leading a team to the playoffs next season is with GB.

Browns: There was a promotion this year where fans got free beer when the team finally won. That tells you something.

Tells me this is a team I could really become a fan of. That's money well spent.
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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As a coach your best chance of leading a team to the playoffs next season is with GB.
I'm definitely not sure about this. There is increasing potential that every AFC North team could have a new coach next year, and top to bottom, I think the best roster + GM combination in the North resides in Cleveland. The Browns will likely be in the playoffs next year and have a shot at winning their first division title since 1989. 1989!

Green Bay is in a division with two above average head coaches (Nagy, Zimmer), and Chicago in particular is positioned to control this division for awhile. I'm not sure of anything with Green Bay right now, and head to head, I think the Browns have a better roster and would beat the Packers as currently constructed...

Cleveland will make the playoffs before Green Bay...
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Old 12-16-2018, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Because these threads are fun to look back on. It's always fun to click back & read threads on here all the way back to 2007. (Remember the thread about the pistol & Kaep, RG3, Wilson, Cam being the future & QBs like Brady, Brees, Rodgers being on the way out?) So much changes in a year.

If you want a prediction - Packers will be a better team next year. Of course I think my Packers offer a more attractive job for the reasons I mentioned earlier. Really it's 2 organizations at opposite ends.

Packers: an organization used to winning. Expectations are high as soon as you step in the building. As a coach your best chance of leading a team to the playoffs next season is with GB.

Browns: There was a promotion this year where fans got free beer when the team finally won. That tells you something.



The Packers are in a division with the Bears and Vikings so I don't think the Packers are guaranteed to make the playoffs next year. Also, the Packers front office is a mess right now. You feel that the Packers are more attractive because you're a Packers fan.

The Browns are in a division that's starting to be on the downside (with the exception of maybe Baltimore). Plus, the Browns have a young team that you can build off of. Right now, with a bunch of young players are in contention for the division title. That's a hell of a turnaround from a team that went 0-16 last year. You can't judge a team's present or future based on past history because that's all it is -- history.
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Old 12-16-2018, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Well, the browns have a 20 year skidmark behind them so you'll have to forgive us if we aren't willing to project them to "good things".

I mean seriously, are we supposed to get *excited* because EVEN THEIR WIKI PAGE hides their past seasons. >.<

I'm not even a Packers fan, but when your wiki page won't even link your history....well, that's an admission of shame.

You don't win 1 game in 2 years being "well run".
And again, after last night and today, I would still take the Browns head coaching job.
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Old 12-17-2018, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I'm definitely not sure about this. There is increasing potential that every AFC North team could have a new coach next year, and top to bottom, I think the best roster + GM combination in the North resides in Cleveland. The Browns will likely be in the playoffs next year and have a shot at winning their first division title since 1989. 1989!

Green Bay is in a division with two above average head coaches (Nagy, Zimmer), and Chicago in particular is positioned to control this division for awhile. I'm not sure of anything with Green Bay right now, and head to head, I think the Browns have a better roster and would beat the Packers as currently constructed...

Cleveland will make the playoffs before Green Bay...


History tells me that the Browns will stink next year (sophomore slump for Mayfield) and the Packers win their division with a 12-4 record.

Personally, i would prefer your scenario but i have to see it to believe it.
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Browns or Packers? which team has the most attractive coaching job, hmmmm

that is a tough one to consider
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Old 12-17-2018, 09:19 AM
 
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History tells me that the Browns will stink next year (sophomore slump for Mayfield) and the Packers win their division with a 12-4 record.

Personally, i would prefer your scenario but i have to see it to believe it.

It doesn't really matter.. Let's say that happens.. just like you've said here.. That's kinda what people expect.


Now.. Let's say you're the coach of the Packers, and I'm coach of the Browns.. We both go 2-14.. your head is being called for on a platter (And likely delivered), while I'm at the very least getting patience and another year to develop the team.

If we both go 12-4.. I'm a genius, while you're doing what was expected of you. Hell, I would only have to go 8-8 to be considered a genius.


With all the above being said.. I think I have the better chance of being a playoff team as well. While the Packers have decent talent.. They need some work on the running game and on WR, but not a total overhaul. They're not setup for the long run. Rodgers is on the downhill side now. And expectations from the fan base are sky high.

The Browns.. are loaded with young talent. And have even more coming in behind with all the draft picks. They're set, if managed right, to be a playoff contending team for the next 10 years or so. But, expectations are rock bottom.
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