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Old 01-22-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Nah, your "whataboutism" is just a convenient way of trying to avoid having an objective conversation on the topic. No different than the cowards that use "haters gonna hate" so they don't have to address an opposing viewpoint. Not to mention, anyone can use analytics (which is consistently done in sports now to determine outcomes) to calculate the points left off the board for the Rams with all of the calls the ref blew for them. The fact that you don't want to address the blatant missed calls against the Rams after visual evidence to the contrary just shows you're not interested in a reasoned debate on the topic. Unlike you, I'm not deflecting from any of the calls (your statement is factually inaccurate). I'm saying there were a variety of missed calls. Why that's so hard for you to understand is beyond me. Admittedly, I think you do understand it and just find it convenient to be obtuse.

 
Old 01-22-2019, 08:27 AM
 
Location: California
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Blatant interference was not called by the refs. Would have secured game winning field goal by the Saints.
Yup, woulda, coulda, shoulda, but the play wasn't called. It did prevent the Saints from winning right there, but it didn't make them lose the game right there, they did that on their own!!

Peyton should've been coaching his team with proper play calling. For instance running on those two plays that they had incomplete passes on, thus stopping the clock and letting the Rams save their timeouts.

Plus they had the ball first in the OT, and the Rams got the turnover due to their play!! By hitting Drew Brees as he threw the ball to get the interception to allow the Rams to kick the winning field goal.

The Rams had no calls on two face masking penalties, one on Goff and another on Brandin Cooks that weren't called. Who knows what might have happened if they get those calls, but the Rams continued playing.

I agree the no call was wrong, but the Saints only have themselves to blame for the loss.
 
Old 01-22-2019, 08:34 AM
 
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Yup, woulda, coulda, shoulda, but the play wasn't called. It did prevent the Saints from winning right there, but it didn't make them lose the game right there, they did that on their own!!

Peyton should've been coaching his team with proper play calling. For instance running on those two plays that they had incomplete passes on, thus stopping the clock and letting the Rams save their timeouts.

Plus they had the ball first in the OT, and the Rams got the turnover due to their play!! By hitting Drew Brees as he threw the ball to get the interception to allow the Rams to kick the winning field goal.

The Rams had no calls on two face masking penalties, one on Goff and another on Brandin Cooks that weren't called. Who knows what might have happened if they get those calls, but the Rams continued playing.

I agree the no call was wrong, but the Saints only have themselves to blame for the loss.
It's much easier to play the "victim" card.
 
Old 01-22-2019, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Murrica
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At least the league acknowledged that the officiating crew blew it.

https://247sports.com/nfl/new-orlean...ton-128095284/
Actually, the league has not spoken about it publicly. Sean Payton, the guy who had to sit out an entire season for cheating, said they called him.
 
Old 01-22-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Actually, the league has not spoken about it publicly. Sean Payton, the guy who had to sit out an entire season for cheating, said they called him.
True but at least the league knew that the officials blew it
 
Old 01-22-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Actually, the league has not spoken about it publicly. Sean Payton, the guy who had to sit out an entire season for cheating, said they called him.
that actually was me that called him, I told him we'd also be changing the rule and sending him a lifetime supply of kleenex
 
Old 01-22-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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I didn't care who won that game. No allegiance at all, no wagers, nothing.

That being said, we all acknowledge, unless you're Goff's mom or married to the referee in question, that it was a pretty horrible no-call.

So, here we have people saying stuff like "Well that call was wrong and would have won the game right there.....but they have only themselves to blame for losing."

There is no logic flow to that line of thinking.

Calls get missed, we all understand that is part of the game. Not everything is reviewable, things happen fast and you don't always have the right angles to see.

That being said, you have to separate every little holding etc. that potentially COULD have been called from the really egregious ball in the air, all eyes on the play type stuff that resulted in that critical no call.

Regardless, this weekends bad refereeing is not want the NFL wanted people talking about and there is a big problem right there if people start feeling that perhaps everything is not on the up and up. (I don't agree with that personally)

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Old 01-22-2019, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Murrica
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True but at least the league knew that the officials blew it
Ray Charles could see it was a bad call.
 
Old 01-22-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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Regardless, this weekends bad refereeing is not want the NFL wanted people talking about and there is a big problem right there if people start feeling that perhaps everything is not on the up and up. (I don't agree with that personally)
The NFL will be fine. I can't tell you how many times I've either heard people personally or on the internet say they would never watch another game because of "x" (you fill in the blank...a bad call, the national anthem protests, etc.). And yet the league continues to be profitable. The naysayers will point to a decline in ratings. But the fact of the matter is, all TV ratings are down (the NFL is proportionately in range with this). It is still the most popular of American sports and I don't see baseball or the NBA overtaking that any time soon.
 
Old 01-22-2019, 10:35 AM
 
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It was a bad no-call... among hundreds of other in the course of the season.
If the Saints played better BEFORE this happened, it would not have mattered s much!
I.E. ALL the plays in the game matter.. not just this one.

It's a GAME.
Get over it.
And count your blessings that you're not a Giants fan!
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