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Old 01-21-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Waco, TX
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Over at Sports Illustrated's MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK,
By Albert Breer
January 21, 2019

There was 1:48 showing when Saints quarterback Drew Brees feathered the ball down the right sideline to Tommylee Lewis, who looked back for it, only to take a crushing head shot from Rams corner Nickell Robey-Coleman, who was on time for the hit like the Giants used to be on time for Tom Coughlin’s meetings: about five minutes early.

It was pass interference. It was helmet-to-helmet, too. And if the officials call it, the Saints have first-and-goal at the 5 with 1:45 left. From there, the Rams would have been forced to burn their final timeout, and the Saints could have bled the clock dry and kicked a field goal to win the game with no time left. Instead, they kicked the field goal with 1:41 remaining, leaving plenty of time for the Rams to tie the game, which they would.
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WacoBill says: Reminds me of the 1919 Black Sox Scandal to fix the World Series. Only, much more blatantly in-your-face.

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Old 01-21-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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Congratulations Saints fans, now you know how people felt in 2009 when the Saints were handed the NFC championship by the Katrina refs, multiple blatant blown calls, didn't hear the Saints fans whining about that.

On top of that, the Saints still went ahead on that drive. Then they failed to stop the Rams from tying the game. They failed to score after getting the ball first in OT, they failed to stop the Rams from scoring in OT. No, that play didn't lose the game for the Saints. Yes, it would have won the game for them, but they missed plenty of opportunities to stop the Rams or score 1st in OT and failed.

Payback sucks, hope it tastes bitter as hell so the Saints know what others felt the last time they went to the Superbowl.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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Bill Belichick proposed allowing every play to be review-able back in 2013. This would not increase the number of challenges a coach had. Rather a coach would have the ability to challenge any play they wish. Same number of challenges, larger number of plays to use them on.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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It was an awful no-call.

But am I going insane or did the Saints not have the ball in OT? So could they not have won with a touchdown? Just like the touchdown they seem to assume they would have gotten if a flag had been thrown.

It was a terrible miss by the officials but that INT may be the worst pass I've ever seen Brees throw.
As I said last night you can never guarantee a made field goal no matter how close (remember a while back maybe 8-10 years ago when the Saints had that crazy, last second lateral touchdown to close to within 1 point of the Jags, and all they needed was the PAT [than at the 2 or 3 yard line] to stay in the playoff chase and John Carney missed it, they lost by 1 and were eliminated??) Plus the Saints could've stopped the Rams twice, once during the last drive in the 4th, and the other in overtime, PLUS the Saints play calling was absolutely atrocious, but yes Saints fans have every right to complain and moan that the refs cost them that game.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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The reffing in general seems to have grown worse by the year. Often times now it's so blatant that fans are right to question whether or not the proverbial 'fix' is in. It's particularly discouraging when a team may have been cost a Super Bowl appearance. It reminds me of the NFC Championship in 2008 when the Eagles were clearly screwed by a no-call that was so obvious even a blind referee would've thrown a flag.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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Bill Belichick proposed allowing every play to be review-able back in 2013. This would not increase the number of challenges a coach had. Rather a coach would have the ability to challenge any play they wish. Same number of challenges, larger number of plays to use them on.
I think you should get two challenges and as long as you don't get both ruled against you you should be able to keep challenging until you are out of challenges.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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For those with a fuzzy memory, here are a slew of blown calls that sent the Saints to their first superbowl. You can all stop your whining now because you sure didn't whine about the refs after that game.

Saints/Vikings highlights start around the 45 second mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRd5jkJ1dEo

And Goff was facemasked on the previous drive, but no call and they would have had 1st and goal on the 1 yard line. Wasn't a horrible facemask, but it pulled Goff's head around to the left and completely changed his movement, textbook reason for throwing a flag. Had the Saints guy hit him with his shouler too, it wouldn't have been a bad blown call. But his hand to the facemask turning Goff's head is the only contact he makes. Facemask foul, plain and simple, not single Saints fan believes it was a big deal because they are too busy dramatizing the no call PI on the following drive. But that facemask would have sealed the game for the Rams just as much as the no call PI would have sealed it for the Saints.

The ironic thing hear is there were multiple bad calls in overtime that favored the Saints that were booth reviewed and were still blown calls. The Saints were handed their first superbowl trip by the refs MULTIPLE times.

Have heard nothing but whining from Saints fans and none big enough to admit that PI wasn't the only bad call with game changing implications.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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I heard those 2 officials in question, one used to play for the old LA Rams, and the other lives in LA. How do they get assigned to an LA RAMS game??

I know a high school basketball official in Connecticut who cannot referee a certain school's game because he lives in that town! Doesn't have kids in the school, doesn't have a kid on the team, but he lives in the town so he can't officiate the game! How does the NFL allow a former player (from the old franchise) and a city resident to officiate the game??
 
Old 01-21-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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And Goff was facemasked on the previous drive, but no call and they would have had 1st and goal on the 1 yard line. Wasn't a horrible facemask, but it pulled Goff's head around to the left and completely changed his movement, textbook reason for throwing a flag. Had the Saints guy hit him with his shouler too, it wouldn't have been a bad blown call. But his hand to the facemask turning Goff's head is the only contact he makes. Facemask foul, plain and simple, not single Saints fan believes it was a big deal because they are too busy dramatizing the no call PI on the following drive. But that facemask would have sealed the game for the Rams just as much as the no call PI would have sealed it for the Saints.

Have heard nothing but whining from Saints fans and none big enough to admit that PI wasn't the only bad call with game changing implications.
If you want to take the face mask penalty into account than Chiefs fans have every right to complain that the "roughing the passer" cost them the game. The fact is, there were more egregious errors in that Chiefs game later on, and even IF the face mask had been called, you think they score a touchdown and everything else plays out the way it did, that non PI call would be just as bad because the Saints would've been down 4 instead of tied, and the new fresh set of downs would've given them first down from inside the 10 yard line. They still would've needed a touchdown to win, but you'd have to like Brees & Alvin Kamara getting the 4 or 5 yards in 4 downs needed to win. After that, who knows what happens, maybe the Rams let them score on the first down play to save time and they still kick the field goal to send it to overtime. The fact is, that non pi/illegal contact downfield/helmet-to-helmet hit, ALL of which would've given the Saints a first down had a direct impact on how the game turned out, the Goff facemask penalty did not.
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