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I don't think you can discount the influence of Urban Meyer in all this - they have a lot of history together from Tebow's days playing for Meyer in college. If Urban Meyer wasn't a new head coach in the NFL, I don't think Tebow would be getting this chance. Colin Kapernick doesn't have an Urban Meyer waiting to give him a chance to try to revisit the "good old days".
Tebow's a circus sideshow act, too. His #1 talent by far is moving merchandise and selling tickets. The guy's entire pro career (football and baseball) has been little more than a giant marketing gimmick. The Jags can sign him to the veteran minimum and cut him before the season starts and they'll still come out ahead because there are a bunch of suckers out there who'll buy his Jags jersey and go to the pointless preseason games just to watch him ride the bench all day.
So by your reckoning, he's likely to bring value to the franchise. Now maybe I don't have the sharpest business mind out there, but I'm pretty sure that what he's supposed to do.
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I don't think you can discount the influence of Urban Meyer in all this - they have a lot of history together from Tebow's days playing for Meyer in college. If Urban Meyer wasn't a new head coach in the NFL, I don't think Tebow would be getting this chance. Colin Kapernick doesn't have an Urban Meyer waiting to give him a chance to try to revisit the "good old days".
I think this is what it comes down to but it also highlights a greater problem that causes a Kaepernick to be inserted into a situation like this. Tim Tebow has the Urban Meyer to help him get a foot into a team. Most black players don’t have an Urban Meyer available to get that sort of chance when they are far less qualified for one. Bigger problem, most black players don’t have an Urban Meyer to go to bat for them when they are qualified for a chance. That is what Colin’s problem is.
The reason why black folks in particular may be more upset about this is that we often are the ones who experience disparate impact of nepotism like this which is usually along color lines and it causes us PTSD because we or our parents who were adequately qualified for a promotion or a job see that job get given to someone much less qualified who don’t look like us because of a relationship being valued over an actual ability to do that job. Seeing it be so publicly done in Tebow’s case will bring back those experiences.
I think this is what it comes down to but it also highlights a greater problem that causes a Kaepernick to be inserted into a situation like this. Tim Tebow has the Urban Meyer to help him get a foot into a team. Most black players don’t have an Urban Meyer available to get that sort of chance when they are far less qualified for one. Bigger problem, most black players don’t have an Urban Meyer to go to bat for them when they are qualified for a chance. That is what Colin’s problem is.
The reason why black folks in particular may be more upset about this is that we often are the ones who experience disparate impact of nepotism like this which is usually along color lines and it causes us PTSD because we or our parents who were adequately qualified for a promotion or a job see that job get given to someone much less qualified who don’t look like us because of a relationship being valued over an actual ability to do that job. Seeing it be so publicly done in Tebow’s case will bring back those experiences.
Tebow preserved and nurtured his professional relationships, and for that he'll basically get to be a bench coach for a season. Kaepernick poured kerosene on his, threw a match at it, and then whined endlessly about how hot the flames were. And when it looked like he might nevertheless get a second chance, he did it all over again.
So by your reckoning, he's likely to bring value to the franchise. Now maybe I don't have the sharpest business mind out there, but I'm pretty sure that what he's supposed to do.
Exactly! The whole purpose of owning an NFL team is to make money. Sell tickets. Sell merchandise. Even the networks broadcasting the game will make more money if he's on the team because Tebow has a built in fanbase that will follow him.
If Kap can do the same thing for a team, I'm sure he would have been signed by now. It's all about money and perception.
It's all about money and perception. Bingo! As soon as I hear comments about money, I always think it is always about the money, no doubt.
Tebow being out of the league over 8 years, FAs out there not landing with a team this year is what I've heard players not getting. I don't blame them for saying, what the heck, I'm sitting this year, and a guy out of the league gets a chance???
I don't look at this as being "about" Kaepernick, not really, there is always a bigger picture.
I think this is what it comes down to but it also highlights a greater problem that causes a Kaepernick to be inserted into a situation like this. Tim Tebow has the Urban Meyer to help him get a foot into a team. Most black players don’t have an Urban Meyer available to get that sort of chance when they are far less qualified for one. Bigger problem, most black players don’t have an Urban Meyer to go to bat for them when they are qualified for a chance. That is what Colin’s problem is.
The reason why black folks in particular may be more upset about this is that we often are the ones who experience disparate impact of nepotism like this which is usually along color lines and it causes us PTSD because we or our parents who were adequately qualified for a promotion or a job see that job get given to someone much less qualified who don’t look like us because of a relationship being valued over an actual ability to do that job. Seeing it be so publicly done in Tebow’s case will bring back those experiences.
70% of the NFL players are black! Its pure nonsense to suggest that blackness is contributing in any negative fashion to a player getting a shot in the NFL.....
It certainly isnt Kapernicks problem. https://www.theblaze.com/news/former...ends-tim-tebow
Bottom line, Kap would of been back in the league had he played by the rules concerning that "special tryout" the NFL gave him a few years back. Once he changed the venue and refused to sign a waiver, he ended any chance of getting back in.
I had to go back to this post to say what no one is saying. Kap can't play!! Bottom line. He had lightening in the bottle that one year. The rest of his career? Not so much. That's why when you give him a chance, he decides to throw a curve so he isn't found out that his qb skills have detriorated. He isn't nothing but a show now.
I had to go back to this post to say what no one is saying. Kap can't play!! Bottom line. He had lightening in the bottle that one year. The rest of his career? Not so much. That's why when you give him a chance, he decides to throw a curve so he isn't found out that his qb skills have detriorated. He isn't nothing but a show now.
Probably now, no. But at the time he ended, most NFL scouts and those responsible on choosing player personal would highly disagree with you. Was he worth the negativity it may of brought to a team? Maybe not but at the time he was still better some of the starters in the league. The last 8 games of his career his numbers were up in the upper half of QB's. But hey, your entitled to your opinion.
I had to go back to this post to say what no one is saying. Kap can't play!! Bottom line. He had lightening in the bottle that one year. The rest of his career? Not so much. That's why when you give him a chance, he decides to throw a curve so he isn't found out that his qb skills have detriorated. He isn't nothing but a show now.
RG3.
I have always compared Kap to him. They had their year.. Then DCs figured them out.
This is not limited to those two. It happens quite a bit. This is where the "sophomore slump" is for QBs. The great ones.. They adjust their game. It happened to Vick. He adjusted and became a more rounded QB.
Now.. Did Kap have a chance to adjust? Well.. Not so much.. Could he have? That's the question.
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As soon as I hear comments about money, I always think it is always about the money, no doubt.
