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Old 08-06-2009, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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Yes, on the local news in my area they showed a 1 minute item on defensive coordinator Mike Nolan. Nolan is sold on the 3-4 defense.
Nolan has pretty much been a 3-4 guy his whole career, and he's one of the best DC's in the game. This year we'll probably run a 4-3/3-4 hybrid much like the Cards used en route to the Super Bowl. If Nolan sees early success with that, he might stick with it, but he'll probably have us fully transitioned into the 3-4 within a year or two.

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As far as those those pickoffs, Ticky, we'll take all of those we can get. Dre Bly led the team last year with two interceptions. That number tells ya something!
That's what I hated about Slowik. His scheme played AWAY from the strengths of Bailey and Bly, our two excellent corners. Now with a legit defensive scheme and an excellent defensive backs coach (Ed Donatell, who was our DB coach during our Super Bowl years) we should see a rise in turnovers.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:45 PM
 
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All good points. And with Champ Bailey missing a good part of the season, Bly really caught it. And I do like Nolan, a solid pick.

I hope I'm wrong with Moss.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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All good points. And with Champ Bailey missing a good part of the season, Bly really caught it. And I do like Nolan, a solid pick.
Yeah, they really went after Bly for awhile. He performed admirably, but then they just went after Paymah and Josh Bell. Now we have Bailey back, Andre Goodman is a prototype #2 corner and Jack Williams/Alphonso Smith are in a very heated battle for the nickel corner spot. We'll have a very deep secondary this year.

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I hope I'm wrong with Moss.
Me too. After a few days off to get his hard clear, he seems to have come back with a venegance. There is still hope there.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: NOCO
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The defence doesn't sound so bad when you break down the personell. We'll see how it turns out when the game is on. I think this years offence will be more defence freindly as well, burning more clock, less 3 and outs, etc. I noticed alot of our defences problems started emerging later on in games, as the offence did what it was going to do quickly and gave the ball back.

What was the deal with Bailey not showing up/being able to do the conditioning run a few days back?

I hear jack williams can really fly.

Heard the receivers are the deapest segment of this camp, really making noise.
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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The defence doesn't sound so bad when you break down the personell. We'll see how it turns out when the game is on. I think this years offence will be more defence freindly as well, burning more clock, less 3 and outs, etc. I noticed alot of our defences problems started emerging later on in games, as the offence did what it was going to do quickly and gave the ball back.
Shanahan and Jeremy Bates said they were trying to copy the 2007 Patroits offense last year. They did great from a yardage standpoint but not so good with scoring. Having the real deal should be a great boost for us.

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What was the deal with Bailey not showing up/being able to do the conditioning run a few days back?
Hard to say. He failed the test (which is a series of sprints) but then passed it the next day. They say it could have been he was just behind on his conditioning because of his injuries last year, or maybe he just had a bad day. I'll go with bad day because like I said, he passed the test the very next day and looked good out there since. Champ is a pro's pro and he'll be ready to go.

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I hear jack williams can really fly.
He's very quick. He's been awesome the last couple days (99 yard interception return for touchdown yesterday) and is giving Alphonso Smith a major battle for the nickelback spot.

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Heard the receivers are the deapest segment of this camp, really making noise.
We're going to have some tough choices to make there. Marshall looked good when he was out there, Royal is awesome as always, Gaffney has looked good, Stokely is Stokely and McKinley, Brandon Lloyd, Chad Jackson and Nate Swift (UDFA out of Nebraska) have all been impressive.

Like I said, there will be some tough choices to make when it comes to trimming down the roster.
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: NOCO
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I had a bit of a revelation a bit back when it came to the broncos. Why is Brandon Marshall on the team and Jay Cutler isn't? Then I thought about the direction this team is going and realized Brandon Marshall and the receiving core will be a bigger part of this offence than a quarterback like Cutler would be. I'm assuming there will be alot more accurate short passing and after the catch yardage this year than last year. Having a beast like Marshall to get that extra yards after the catch, and taking pressure off emerging guys like Royal is more key to this team than Cutler was. We need accuracy more than arm, though Orton and Sims I've heard have been pretty shakey thus far in camp. We have a pretty ideal group of guys out there catching the ball, and Marshall is important to that, we just need a qb to get it there, they're the real focus. That's why I think Marshall is around despite his problems and Cutler is gone because of his.
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:44 PM
 
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I'm hoping Marshall is around as well. Because if I'm not mistaken his case goes to trial starts sometime next week.
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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I had a bit of a revelation a bit back when it came to the broncos. Why is Brandon Marshall on the team and Jay Cutler isn't? Then I thought about the direction this team is going and realized Brandon Marshall and the receiving core will be a bigger part of this offence than a quarterback like Cutler would be.
At the risk of rehashing the Cutler fiasco (ughhh) I'll just mention that Jay is only gone because he wanted out. McDaniels never actively tried to trade him, and had Jay stuck around we would have had an offense that made the 2007 Patriots look like a team unfamiliar with the concept of a forward pass. I take a little comfort in knowing that Jay is now in the offensive wasteland known as Chicago.

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I'm assuming there will be alot more accurate short passing and after the catch yardage this year than last year. Having a beast like Marshall to get that extra yards after the catch, and taking pressure off emerging guys like Royal is more key to this team than Cutler was.
Yes, this is correct.

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We need accuracy more than arm, though Orton and Sims I've heard have been pretty shakey thus far in camp.
Yeah, but they're still learning and this is a complex offense. To put it in perspective, alot of Patriot fans wanted Cassel flat out cut because of how bad he played in the 08 preseason, yet when he actually hit the field he turned in a very good year.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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Moreno is signed.
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Old 08-08-2009, 12:35 PM
 
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Yep, happened late yesterday afternoon. I don't have the exact figures, but it goes for five years and has good size signing bonus. That is good news, as he needed to get in camp.

He probably won't be ready for the pre-season opener at San Francisco next Friday night, but we'll see what happens over the next several days.

According to the Post, he gets into camp tomorrow.
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