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Old 08-28-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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People who are snobs don't grant that people have value unless they meet their standards.

So if that does not apply to you, why would you accept offense?

Do you know the definition of the word "snob"? It is someone who thinks that they are BETTER than other people, and have unrealistic standards.
You are the one stating people with standards are snobs. It's your hang up. And having standards is not about thinking you are better than anybody else. Actually, it's far fetched to even believe you are considered at all. Trust me, when a woman or man is seeking out a mate, dating, getting married, etc, you're (general you) not in the mental picture at all. Also, unrealistic standards is pretty subjective.
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: ATL with a side of Chicago
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I don't care if you care about him or not.

It doesn't make him somehow "better" than the next guy. Everyone is of equal value, as long as they are healthy and able to do some sort of work.

So, all people are the same? No, sorry, they're not. We're not mass-produced robots. Furthermore, all people are not the same for all people, and that in no way is an indication of snobbery. People are not interchangeable. You cannot simply swap out Braunwyn's husband (for example) for some random guy, who is "healthy and can do some sort of work" because "nobody is better than the other", and expect her to not care.
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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We basically all have the same number of chromosomes, we are all made up of fat, muscle, skin, and bone. We all basically start and survive with the same number of organs, anatomically speaking.

Yes...all people ARE biologically the SAME.
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:32 PM
 
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We basically all have the same number of chromosomes, we are all made up of fat, muscle, skin, and bone. We all basically start and survive with the same number of organs, anatomically speaking.

Yes...all people ARE biologically the SAME.
But, not all people bring the same to the relationship table. Not all people share the same values and goals. Physiologically speaking, some simply have more to offer. Intelligence and physical robustness is both heritable and dependent on nurture influence.
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:34 PM
 
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We basically all have the same number of chromosomes, we are all made up of fat, muscle, skin, and bone. We all basically start and survive with the same number of organs, anatomically speaking.

Yes...all people ARE biologically the SAME.

It is their thoughts, actions, and feelings that make them different. People that are able to actually care about other people and demonstrate those feelings through their actions. People are not the same at all. For instance, most women would not choose to be with someone who thought people should be eliminated if they could not defend themselves. That is your belief, and one that will rule you out as a potential mate to most women.
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Is everyone capable of having a relationship?

Or not?

Unfortunately, maybe the problem isn't that the person doesn't meet your standard, maybe you have the wrong standards.
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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It is their thoughts, actions, and feelings that make them different. People that are able to actually care about other people and demonstrate those feelings through their actions. People are not the same at all. For instance, most women would not choose to be with someone who thought people should be eliminated if they could not defend themselves. That is your belief, and one that will rule you out as a potential mate to most women.
Survival of the fittest. My survival is not benefited by parasites on society--but we should raise them up?
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:36 PM
 
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The wrong standards according to who?
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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No one.

Karma.

I don't know. I'm speaking about standards in general--that it is wrong to have them. That it doesn't benefit society.
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: ATL with a side of Chicago
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We basically all have the same number of chromosomes, we are all made up of fat, muscle, skin, and bone. We all basically start and survive with the same number of organs, anatomically speaking.

Yes...all people ARE biologically the SAME.
You know as well as I do that that biological makeup is NOT what you meant by "all people are the same", and anyone who thinks otherwise is a snob. But I'll play along:

Would you date your step-sister? Would you date an 80 year old woman that still held down a job? Would you date a woman, who's not very pretty, but she's got a job, she's made up of fat, muscle, skin, and bone. Oh, she was born a male, but had an operation. But, still, all the organic materials are there. Would you date your best friend's ex-wife? She's not very nice, she broke your friend's heart, but she has a good job. She won't let you be seen in public with her, however, because she IS a snob, but still..."all people are the same." so I know you won't think you're too good for her.

No standards? Really? All of the above are viable candidates by your own definition.
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