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Old 07-08-2011, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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You don't see straight ppl openly flaunting their s*xuality like that.
Of course you do. For one, TV isn't real, and two, if you'd see a straight couple walking down the street holding hands and think "aw, that's sweet," then why is a gay couple doing the same thing rubbing their sexuality (not a bad word, by the way) in your face?

What people do in their bedrooms is private, but the "gay lifestyle" you're putting down isn't any different than what straight people do in their own lives.Gays and lesbians want to be in a good relationship, have friends and hobbies, work at a job they like, build a home and a family, travel, etc.

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Old 07-08-2011, 07:43 AM
 
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In answer to your question: one thing I really dislike is the way that Hollywood plays up and glamorizes homos*xuality as a culturally super-hip, ultra-desirable and cool sort of thing. Gays are routinely portrayed as the hippest, uber-cool, totally awesome commodity by today's mainstream media -- just turn on the TV and watch the myriad number of reality TV shows, movies, etc., blatantly promoting homos*xuality as desirable. You don't see straight ppl openly flaunting their s*xuality like that. It's the way that those who are militantly homos*xual "flaunt it", with an "in your face" attitude, that I find extremely distasteful. Gays who keep their private intimate life "private" and don't try to force you to culturally endorse and validate their lifestyle, I have no problem at all with. As far as I am concerned, both straight and gay ppl should keep their private intimate life and s*xual proclivities, private and in the bedroom, where it belongs.
your homophobic Knight, plain and simple, being 'anti-homsexual lifestyle' is the same thing
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Old 07-08-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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Um, number one, that's HOLLYWOOD. That's hardly representative of all gay (or even most gay) people.

And number two...are you effin' serious? You don't think Hollywood and the media and Madison Avenue don't play up heterosexuality all the time and everywhere? That's pretty much every beer ad and every Victoria Secret catalogue and every boob job and every make-up ad and pretty much every single movie and tv show out there.

See...it's clear you haven't really thought about this. And you haven't addressed what 'the lifestyle' is, either.
All I know for sure, is that something has definitely changed in society, and not necessarily for the better. Compare the TV programming of the 1980's, and as far forward as 1992 or so, with that of today. Most ppl arguably try to emulate and mimic the cultural hipness of the times, as portrayed on TV, as favorable and desirable. My problem is that whereas before, homos*xuality was seen in a neutral light and not directly promoted as cool or hip, it is now actively promoted and green-lighted as it never was before. Ppl watch TV and become desensitized to it, think of it as completely normal, even themselves dabble with the (also modern) notion of being "bicurious", "going gay", etc. That to me smacks of social engineering...sorry, just being honest.

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Old 07-08-2011, 07:54 AM
 
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your homophobic Knight, plain and simple, being 'anti-homsexual lifestyle' is the same thing
I'm sorry that you feel that way. At the same, as I mentioned earlier, some ppl (myself included), simply do not accept homos*xuality as an acceptable or non-deviant s*xual behavior. You'll find that the great majority of ppl for most of modern A.D. history did not, either.

If that makes me "homophobic", then so be it.

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Old 07-08-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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Of course you do. For one, TV isn't real, and two, if you'd see a straight couple walking down the street holding hands and think "aw, that's sweet," then why is a gay couple doing the same thing rubbing their sexuality (not a bad word, by the way) in your face?

What people do in their bedrooms is private, but the "gay lifestyle" you're putting down isn't any different than what straight people do in their own lives.Gays and lesbians want to be in a good relationship, have friends and hobbies, work at a job they like, build a home and a family, travel, etc.
There's a huge difference between gays and lesbians who are simply practicing their lifestyle without trying to coerce others with their beliefs, and those who are militantly pro-homos*xual. I have no problem with the the former...it's the latter that I dislike.
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:11 AM
 
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Compare the TV programming of the 1980's, and as far forward as 1992 or so, with that of today.
Compare the TV programming of the '80s to that of the '50s. Compare the TV programming of the '50s to the radio programming of the '30s. Every generation does it, and it's always the new material that is branded "of the devil."

Did you ever see the movie Oscar? There's a line from Sylvester Stallone's character to his daughter: "It's this music you kids listen to today! Bing Crosby, Cab Calloway... Don't think I haven't heard the lyrics to 'Minnie the Moocher.'"
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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All I know for sure, is that something has definitely changed in society, and not necessarily for the better. Compare the TV programming of the 1980's, and as far forward as 1992 or so, with that of today. Most ppl arguably try to emulate and mimic the cultural hipness of the times, as portrayed on TV, as favorable and desirable. My problem is that whereas before, homos*xuality was seen in a neutral light and not directly promoted as cool or hip, it is now actively promoted and green-lighted as it never was before. Ppl watch TV and become desensitized to it, think of it as completely normal, even themselves dabble with the (also modern) notion of being "bicurious", "going gay", etc. That to me smacks of social engineering...sorry, just being honest.
So now gay people are responsible for the entire decline of morality for all of society. And they are also responsible for everything that Hollywood produces.

Your train has long departed reality station.
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:17 AM
 
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Compare the TV programming of the '80s to that of the '50s. Compare the TV programming of the '50s to the radio programming of the '30s. Every generation does it, and it's always the new material that is branded "of the devil."

Did you ever see the movie Oscar? There's a line from Sylvester Stallone's character to his daughter: "It's this music you kids listen to today! Bing Crosby, Cab Calloway... Don't think I haven't heard the lyrics to 'Minnie the Moocher.'"

Dang Minnie, she's a trollop!
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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True, it was much better when anyone who wasn't a WASP was marginalized by society and popular culture.

I guess it's true that gay characters on TV in the 90s weren't hip and cool. Probably because they all had AIDS and their Very Special Episodes allowed the main casts to learn valuable lessons about compassion.

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Old 07-08-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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So now gay people are responsible for the entire decline of morality for all of society. And they are also responsible for everything that Hollywood produces.

Your train has long departed reality station.
The words above are yours -- not mine.
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