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View Poll Results: What's the closest to an alpha female?
Type 1 6 27.27%
Type 2 10 45.45%
Type 3 6 27.27%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-02-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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Again, wrong assessment. These women you guys are talking about are not real alpha females, they are manipulative bullies. Alphas don't need to resort to those behaviors to be naturally take-charge and strong in their presence. Alpha women who are legitimately so are also sweet and very, very loving and kind to those they care about.
hitler was nice to eva braun and his german shephard
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Well what do you expect me to say? You are putting down strong women but patting strong men on the back. LMAO @ 'victim blamers.' What are you the victim of exactly?

You allowed some woman to walk all over you for whatever reason and that's your fault.

I used to let men insult me and talk to me rudely b/c I am generally quiet and whose fault was that? Mine. They shouldn't have been doing it, but if you let someone walk all over you it starts to be more your fault and less theirs.

apparently you're all know and all seeing too, since you decided that 'alpha females idea of sex is gaining promotions at work' and 'getting their way in life. As redvelet said you don't know the difference between a strong female and a female bully.
I think part of the problem is that they haven't met many/any really great women. Depending on their age, that might be part of the problem. It takes awhile for the right seasoning to manifest.
I think I might teach a class. Want to be a guest speaker? Love to have you Doll!
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I think part of the problem is that they haven't met many/any really great women. Depending on their age, that might be part of the problem. It takes awhile for the right seasoning to manifest.
I think I might teach a class. Want to be a guest speaker? Love to have you Doll!

Ha. I do not like public speaking but I would attend. What are you going to teach? Manners? That being 'nice' doesn't mean being a doormat? Good luck, it's going to have to be a long session.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Do people ever say you are "intimidating" even when you aren't doing anything at all??
Sometimes. I've actually had people outright say "Until I got to know you better, I was scared *s-word*less of you" when they've worked with me at conventions. I keep asking what it is, but the answer is more or less always the same: "I don't know. You just seem like somebody I didn't want to **** off or disappoint".

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There are also what I call "loner alphas" - I have a friend, for example, who is very independent. She basically does whatever she wants, and people fall in behind her. She does not set out to be a leader or to start trends - it just happens. She truly is amazing, and her assertive personality means that people do take note when she speaks. She is widely respected, and her example is really what causes people to follow her.
This sounds like me, minus the amazing part. I'm more or less "average".

Now, I will say that I did one thing last year that scared a number of my staffers at a convention. Somebody was hitting the Ring button on our radios repeatedly. Seeing as how it is extremely loud and annoying in our ears, I got on my master radio and broadcasted "Attention everyone on this channel, if I find the person who is hitting the Ring button... pray." Button wasn't touched for the rest of the convention.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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I started a similar thread and it had 33 replies and it was moved to psycology but when I click on it it takes me to.someone eslse's thread.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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'Why Men Love B**ches' by Sherry Argov gives a clear idea about the alpha female.
Definitionof b***: Babe In Total Control of Herself

A woman who can master her emotions & keeps them in check. Its like going against nature & is really really difficult. She could be average looking but is a good dresser, earns her own money, is not needy or desperate for a relationship, treats her man with respect, has some standards & values. On the other hand, a really good looking woman with no standards or earning power or confidence can be easily treated as a doormat since its easy to push her buttons. Confidence is the key & a combination of different aspects of your life (beauty, job, education, etc.) that give you this confidence.

Unfortunately girls grow up with delicate princess role models (cinderella, snow white, etc.) who are waiting for a prince to come & take care of them. Boys are groomed to take charge with their action heroes (GI Joe, super heroes) as their role models. Not blaming the toys or fairytales entirely but there is some cultural conditioning at a very young age. First step is to 'un-learn' & start with a new mindset.

I think every woman can become an alpha female. Needs lot of work & maturity. Always keep working towards making yourself confident & powerful.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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TBH, I find neither the alpha female nor the alpha male personality to be very appealing or enticing Why? Because, when you come right down to it, being an alpha female or an alpha male is about unduly having and projecting power over others. It's always seemed to me to be more about coercion and intimidation and a "my way or the highway" sort of thing, rather than persuasion, conversational dialog, and coming to shared consensus and democracy. As far as I can tell, "alpha" anything is about power, pure and simple -- and I neither want nor need that kind of power over others.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:34 PM
 
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'Why Men Love B**ches' by Sherry Argov gives a clear idea about the alpha female.
Definitionof b***: Babe In Total Control of Herself

A woman who can master her emotions & keeps them in check. Its like going against nature & is really really difficult. She could be average looking but is a good dresser, earns her own money, is not needy or desperate for a relationship, treats her man with respect, has some standards & values. On the other hand, a really good looking woman with no standards or earning power or confidence can be easily treated as a doormat since its easy to push her buttons. Confidence is the key & a combination of different aspects of your life (beauty, job, education, etc.) that give you this confidence.

Unfortunately girls grow up with delicate princess role models (cinderella, snow white, etc.) who are waiting for a prince to come & take care of them. Boys are groomed to take charge with their action heroes (GI Joe, super heroes) as their role models. Not blaming the toys or fairytales entirely but there is some cultural conditioning at a very young age. First step is to 'un-learn' & start with a new mindset.

I think every woman can become an alpha female. Needs lot of work & maturity. Always keep working towards making yourself confident & powerful.

you make it sound like the alpha female is the ideal , some men much perfer the feminine marilyn type than the nut crunching queen of mean model
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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I think the best example in modern times was Diana from "V" The original mini series in the 80's. Her character was inspired by Diana from mythology.
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