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Old 09-02-2015, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Utica, NY
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Well you are doubling your pool of potential dates...
Not really. In many respects being bi makes it harder.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:00 AM
 
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No way. The standards of gay men when it comes to physical appearance are higher than those of straight women. I mean how many unattractive gay guys do you see who let go of their appearances? Not many.
Cracks me up that people see a well-groomed man dressed fashionably and the immediate assumption is "he must be gay." There's an older gentleman who works in the same building as me. Dresses to the nines, well-groomed and is more than somewhat effeminate (more over-the-top raging queen by the way he talks and acts). Gay? Nope. Married 40+ years with five kids. Then there is one friend of mine- total slob, a mechanic by trade. Hands always covered with grease, scruffy un-kept beard and a total beer-guzzling, white-trash football fanatic. And 100% totally Gay...

I wonder what the actual percentage is of men who "experimented" with other guys at sometime in their life (after puberty that is)? I bet the number is quite high- in the 30%-40% range.

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Old 09-03-2015, 02:27 AM
 
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No way. The standards of gay men when it comes to physical appearance are higher than those of straight women. I mean how many unattractive gay guys do you see who let go of their appearances? Not many.
I agree with you. I find gay men on average tend to dress better than straight men and observing a lot of gay men who really into going to the gym.
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Old 09-03-2015, 09:32 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Yeah- had a buddy in a frat at college. He came out as Gay after college and as he tells it, there was quite a bit of "brotherly love" going on behind those frat house doors!
They don't call Philly the "City Of Brotherly Love" for nothing ...

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Old 09-03-2015, 09:35 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Homosexuality; one word;yuck!
It's against forces of nature/mother nature
They say gorillas/chimps/apes are our 'cousins' yet no time will male attracted to male;same as females
Although I wouldn't understand why a fellow hairy muscular man would be attracted to a fellow hairy muscular man;getting all touchy ;urggh
There is no way no;definitely not natural
Ummm ...

Are you in the THIRD GRADE ????

Sure sounds like it to me.
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Clown School
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https://youtu.be/G9hIZe6cF68

If any of you have relatives who are headed down the wrong path, show them that.

That'll fix em.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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I honestly believe if there was no stigma against gay sex you'd see A LOT more straight men experimenting and playing the field. History bears this out. Men have been conditioned from a young age to be REPULSED by the male gender.
So basically you're saying that being gay is a choice, while disrespecting heterosexuality.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:45 PM
 
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Yes, there is some overlap. Usually, this involves men who are addicted to sex, and may explore. Some straight guys will be very secure with their own sexuality, and their own masculinity that they don't feel any threat from gay guys, and will often have gay friends. At the right time, in the right place, maybe after a few beers, ya, it could happen. A lot of straight guys like receiving oral sex more than vaginal sex, and might have more difficulty finding women interested. When I served in the U.S. Navy, after ten weeks of boot camp, most straight guys have lost their homophobia, and might experiment, especially in an environment with very few females. However, nobody ever changes permanently, unless they were gay to begin with.
Again, are you saying that being gay is a choice?

And a straight guy can be secure with their own sexuality and masculinity and still be distrustful of gay men or see them as a threat. Just like lesbians can be secure with their own sexuality but see straight men as a threat. Some gay men will try to hook up with straight men simply for being straight.
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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I have heard of cases of men who are not particularly attracted to men per se but are attracted to the easy sex they can have with other men...as they've said it - "no games, no waiting, no questions - just sex." It is what it is.
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Corydon, IN
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In the grand debate of Nature versus Nurture, the only reasonable answer is "yes."

I believe after years of armchair anthropology that certain preferences are genuinely hard-coded into a person (on an individual basis).

I believe those preferences, despite being foundationally hard-coded, can be influenced by experience and environment, can be proactive or passive. Even rebelled against entirely.

Based on this, I think it's entirely possible for a person to "change" psychologically, even without overt physical manifestation within the brain. Thus, it would be POSSIBLE, whether probable or not, for a man who experienced adequate loneliness or disappointment, who experienced enough frustration, to make a decision to behave in a certain fashion which would cause him to socially be labeled (whether overtly self-declared or not) "gay."


While porn is NOT a realistic example of LIFE (no matter how often some doot-brain who's spent too much time alone watching it and honking Bobo may post in these forums as proof regarding the differences in men and women), consider the "gay for pay" aspect of homo erotica.

If a man will do that for money (whatever his reasons) while insisting he's only doing it for the money -- IS he capable of just doing it for the money? What if he isn't? But also, what if he really is?


If you're shaking your head and pretending such a thing would be physically impossible, juxtapose that against women who despise their husbands but "perform marital duties." Physical arousal is achieved through a variety of mechanisms, is hardly limited to actual attraction.

And certainly, actions can be learned, actions which fly in the face of preferences.

What if someone sought a peaceful relationship and found they got along better with men, and felt they could "learn the sexual ropes," so to speak? Perform "duties" in a kind of fake-it-'til-you-make-it role?

Perhaps they would never be truly attracted to their partner on a needful level, and never initiate, but achieve orgasm through stimulation during their chosen experience. Meanwhile, outside the sexual arena, enjoy an otherwise entirely satisfying life with regard to finances, personal security, friendship, etc.


It's possible. I don't know how likely, but seriously -- nothing new under the sun, so if we can imagine it odds are good it's happened already in one form or another.

If people can consciously forego sexual relations (asexuality/abstinence)...

If people can "experiment" during college (the LUG effect [Lesbian Until Graduation], certain faddish homosexuality)...

If people can simply, consciously, proactively REBEL in any form...


... then why not this?
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