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Old 12-03-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Reading this thread really makes me hate the ugliness that is 'bullying'.
I understand the bully is ignorant...I understand they probably have
had a terrible home life and need to let off steam to feel superior and be in power.

But, take up a sport, punch a punching bag at a gym!

You can't change stupid...but maybe redirect it as a community?
I sure don't know the answer.

On Good Morn America they showed that Rage Rooms were gaining popularity...
maybe that's a start?
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Old 12-03-2016, 07:50 AM
 
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I do wish teachers had more say in how the schools are run. We know from experience on both sides of the teacher's desk that certain practices just don't work in Education and are counterproductive for the kids, yet, alas, we aren't really the ones in charge; I think it was administrators and teacher's unions when I was a kid. Now, it seems to be the government, kids, and their parents who run the schools. It would be very nice to get everyone on the same page.

I also kind of don't agree with inclusion the way it's practiced at some schools; from what I've seen, some schools with low budgets use the inclusion classroom as a dumping ground for special education students. The quality of education for students on grade-level suffers, and it's more difficult for teachers to deal with behavior problems. I know it's not like this at every school, but these situations do exist in certain places, and they do both the special education students and the general education students no favors.
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Old 12-03-2016, 02:23 PM
 
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I was never a bully but I did get picked on, i would not call it 'bullying' though, and it was nothing i couldn't shrug off my shoulders . Now that I am an adult, I just want to say that I would like to see more people stand up for themselves (and others) more. Yeah bullying is awful, people don't deserve to be picked on, singled out, beaten to a pulp, abused, stalked, etc. but some kids just don't give a ****, some know they are ****s/*******s and proud of it. Bullying is something that is part of life, it can't totally be stopped, but you can control how you allow others to treat you by standing up to them.
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Old 12-03-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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I was never a bully but I did get picked on, i would not call it 'bullying' though, and it was nothing i couldn't shrug off my shoulders . Now that I am an adult, I just want to say that I would like to see more people stand up for themselves (and others) more. Yeah bullying is awful, people don't deserve to be picked on, singled out, beaten to a pulp, abused, stalked, etc. but some kids just don't give a ****, some know they are ****s/*******s and proud of it. Bullying is something that is part of life, it can't totally be stopped, but you can control how you allow others to treat you by standing up to them.
Part of life that other people choose to take part in bullying. This isn't like puberty which is a natural involuntary occurrence.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I'm a Child Protective Services worker, and we have constant seminars on bullying. I find that many teachers and/or parents just don't grasp the reality of bullying.

I drive home a very heavy point in terms of bullying in school: Does the word COLUMBINE mean anything?
Those boys (Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold [sic]) were very harshly picked on and bullied.
No one needs to be reminded of the results!
This actually has been debunked following a variety of investigations. In fact, there is much more evidence of Eric Harris in particular having perpetrated harassment and bullying than there is of him having been victimized.
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Old 12-03-2016, 11:28 PM
 
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This actually has been debunked following a variety of investigations. In fact, there is much more evidence of Eric Harris in particular having perpetrated harassment and bullying than there is of him having been victimized.
Even if that is the case, it still makes sense that a bullied child could "snap" if not given the proper help.
Why the ‘bully-killing’ teen finally snapped | New York Post
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Old 12-04-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Thanks for this thread. I need it right now.

Starting a new chapter in my life that will not include being hurt mentally physically or emotionally.


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Old 12-04-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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I was bullied pretty severely throughout elementary and middle school, sometimes physically. It still affects me to this day. My only regret is that I never fought back, I wish I could have inflicted pain on them. I still hate all of them.
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Old 12-04-2016, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Lake Grove
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Victims need to learn self defense. Martial arts is a good start. Knowing the physical part helps project confidence, which is part of stopping a bully in his tracks. The next is verbal self defense, which takes practice. I am a work in progress using both of these tactics.
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Old 12-04-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Okay, what if EVERYONE made fun of you, making your life at school, work, or wherever all of this was going on, fairly difficult and eventually made you feel like taking your own life because you couldn't cope with having your image molded by someone else into a person you despise as well as what ever else was going on at home? I can relate. I feel like the bullying I experienced caused me to isolate myself from people. I didn't participate in after school clubs, even though I was interested. When I complained to my teacher about the bullying, I was given only limited helpful advice. I didn't go on dates; I didn't even go to the prom. I was sick of trying to be good enough for those jerks. I guess you don't really know how it feels unless it's happened to you, and, these weren't just a few isolated incidents, mind you, they were secret shameful experiences that happened to me throughout my childhood. When you have to put up with it every day it can feel like they're telling the truth, and there's no way to build your self-esteem by learning new skills, because they're there to make your life miserable at school and make it an unpleasant place. Imagine going to gym just to have the other girls tease you and mock you day after day. I hated that treatment so much that I became a teacher to stop it from happening to more kids.

I can relate to your situation. I never involved my self in anything related to interaction with my peers until late in HS. I sort of broke out of the shell then when a girl who was more part of the "popular" clique became interested in me and disdained her groups opinions to be with me. And then there were two. Lol.


Before that my social interactions didn't amount to much. I lived on a little ranch, and I was quite happy in that environment. More so than ever I was in school or anywhere else I had to interact with people. My own age or otherwise. Oh, I didn't get physically picked on much. Not after grade school anyway. One popular guy, a real Mr. super athlete jock type, pushed me to far in Jr. High one fine day, and I lit him up like a Christmas tree. I was hardly physically unable to defend myself. Growing up with livestock will toughen one up a bit. I was left alone after that. My best friends all had four legs. From the barncats , the dogs, and the horses came the "people" I trusted. I didn't have any problem stepping in when I saw bullying in school. The bullies were well known in school. It was always the same kids. None of them really wanted too tangle up and get busy, and they'd always back off with no more than throwing insults and stupid trash talk. (shrug) Didn't bug me any.


Before my sons first day of school I had sat having many a talk with him about bullies. I wanted to instll in him that he didn't have to put up with them, nor let them do it to other kids. That its wrong, period. He became a little White Knight he did. He mixed it up with every bully on the playground. The teachers loved him. Made yard duty easier. lol. His last altercation was in Jr. High. By then it was SOP for the school to call the cops for any school fight that got physical. So I had to get there to. Got called off an out of town job, but I got there in record time.


Turns out the kid he thrashed was a real problem child. One incident away from expulsion. And thrash him he did. For beating on a far smaller weaker kid just for grins, and even turning on the teacher trying to get him to stop. So my boy took him on. The teacher and VP told me what happened and that the police were just there because of procedure. My kid wasn't in any trouble. The cop came in to talk to him, a great big Hawaiian guy that looked like a Sumo wrestler. He looks at the report and says"So ya took care of business aye Brah?" I bout fell over.


Anyway, bullying is and always has been a serious issue. I think its worse now than when I was in school. With the whole cyber aspect that's been added its hard for kids to leave it behind. Can't even be safe at home. Through the glowing screen it just follows them. Some pretty nasty stuff happens online. I think I'd rather just take a beating than go through that. I know my kid didn't keep any secrets hid on the computer. Parents really need to monitor their kids computer activities.
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