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Old 05-29-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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I never actually claimed to be a beta male. I certainly never claimed to be a "nice guy;" I would never describe myself as such. I can thank that fact for what limited success I have had. I emphasize with them because I've had a similar experience even if for somewhat different reasons. And whether you want to believe it or not, I do believe in something greater than myself. That something isn't the frivolous, self obsessed individuals around me however. I give them as much consideration and regard as they give me (none).

See, I actually did bungle my life. I can acknowledge substantial if not majority culpability at this point. Maybe around 40-60%. But it's not even close to 100%. That's just silly.



Being a self flagellating white knight is the true path to woman's heart. You can see this on your average college campus, where the apex alpha male frat boy types win fair lady with their eloquent and heartfelt recitals of feminist poetry and expressions of support for female emancipation and empowerment.
You are a bundle of contradictions and I have no idea what you want that you aren't getting. But whatever it is, it is not the fault of the mythical "alpha male" or the women you believe are entranced by them.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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Don't you get it? Prior to 1964 was a golden age when men were all assigned a woman, and she'd have to perform her wifely duties on demand and like it or be stoned in the town square! Or something. It was good times for all!
It was better times for a great many.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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Tairos- Much like Elliot Rodger, you are what is known as a Grievance Collector. Look up the term.

You are making yourself miserable. The situation is created by you and can only be fixed by getting long term mental health help. Your problems have nothing to do with women really. They have to do with your outlook on the world, which is not based on reality (as everyone is telling you ). People are not levels or numbers or letters in the Greek alphabet. That you think they are is an indication, in part, of why you are unfulfilled and unhappy.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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No one has to do anything, but I wouldn't be opposed to a bill sponsoring a non-profit with willing escorts. How this would work, a private entity would subsidize the going rate of escorts for men 21 and older who are confirmed virgins. This would be confirmed somehow, maybe through friends and such. The escorts would be giving a best practices guide to dealing with their green clients.

And despite the supposed inroads we've made toward sexual empowerment, society is still sexually repressed. It is still extremely taboo for a man to openly say he is casually dating and having sex with 6 women, even more so for a woman to say she is casually dating and have sex with 6 men.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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Tairos- Much like Elliot Rodger, you are what is known as a Grievance Collector. Look up the term.

You are making yourself miserable. The situation is created by you and can only be fixed by getting long term mental health help. Your problems have nothing to do with women really. They have to do with your outlook on the world, which is not based on reality (as everyone is telling you ). People are not levels or numbers or letters in the Greek alphabet. That you think they are is an indication, in part, of why you are unfulfilled and unhappy.

Very well stated! I've been at a complete loss reading these new pages since yesterday's postings.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:41 PM
 
Location: NY
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You can't blame women for not being attracted to a strange loner...it's natural that they wouldn't be. If you're a loser with women, you need to learn how to make yourself attractive to women...only solution I see.
That's the absolute truth. It's far too risky for a woman to get involved with a true friendless loner who has no ties to the contemporary real world beyond books. movies and video games...........There's too many red flags for her for her to even consider giving a friendless loner a chance. She fears for her safety, fears being affected by his thinking, fears living an isolated crazy life if she falls for him, fears being around his inevitable resentment of her family, friends.

This has nothing to do with his looks, his height, his build, his money, the car he drives, his fashion sense, his intelligence, his gentle ways.

The woman will wonder good questions like WHY is he alone? WHY does he refuse to fit in? WHAT is he afraid of? WHY don't other people like him? WHY did he abandon or why did his entire family abandon him?

She isn't going to share those concerns with the lonely man who she has to reject.

He may assume it was his looks or other physical reasons but that's his quirkiness telling him these lies and he won't realize the true reasons until he steps away from his biases and looks at things objectively.

I hope all angry men who blame looks for their rejections will read this and realize what is really going on.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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No. We just need to legalize prostitution.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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No, because looks are important to women. It stinks that, additionally, society conditions women to think fearfully of men.

Another stinker is that society tells men to keep their 'weak' emotions to themselves. I think Elliot Rodger was very bottled-up, so much that he didn't even reveal much (other than his name) in a let-it-all-out site like PUA Hate or to therapists. He had a few stories in the manifesto of how revealing personal info came back to bite him.

Those are issues society should address fast, to minimize more young male implosions and explosions. On this site, people could resolve to not shame male posters who are complaining.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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Being a self flagellating white knight is the true path to woman's heart. You can see this on your average college campus, where the apex alpha male frat boy types win fair lady with their eloquent and heartfelt recitals of feminist poetry and expressions of support for female emancipation and empowerment.
So emancipated, empowered women are considered the problem, now? This just gets better and better.

If men lack the confidence to attract a mate who is "emancipated and empowered", the problem is bloody well theirs.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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No, because looks are important to women. It stinks that, additionally, society conditions women to think fearfully of men.

Another stinker is that society tells men to keep their 'weak' emotions to themselves. I think Elliot Rodger was very bottled-up, so much that he didn't even reveal much (other than his name) in a let-it-all-out site like PUA Hate or to therapists. He had a few stories in the manifesto of how revealing personal info came back to bite him.

Those are issues society should address fast, to minimize more young male implosions and explosions. On this site, people could resolve to not shame male posters who are complaining.
Again, go to the mall and look around at couples. Looks are important to some people, male and female, and not to others. Also, looks are very subjective.

"Shaming" has been mentioned a couple of times on this thread. It's not shaming to make suggestions to a poster who is complaining about not being able to find a woman to date about things he might try. Nor is it shaming to say "it's not them, it's you" to a poster who lumps all women together and sees them as a cold-hearted blob.
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