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I personally think that men and women can be attracted to a variety of types, types that might turn others off.
It was said earlier that if a man isn't attracted to a woman, he won't be able to perform, and of course that's true. But many men may have a less attractive woman as "friends with benefits," or they'll occasionally pick up a more homely woman for a one night stand, but they are ashamed to be seen with her in a relationship. She looks 'good enough' to have sex with, apparently, but she's not suitable arm candy to show off to his friends. This doesn't put such men in a good light and I don't think many women feel sorry for these men's sad plight when they complain that there are not enough women out there who are "good enough" for them.
I also forgot to mention earlier, I've also seen people question this theory that a man simply cannot, cannot perform unless he is blazingly attracted to the woman (what happened to "men will [expletive deleted] mud?"), and to add along the way, that it's not women who made up the likes of "butterface" and "double/triple bagger", to discuss 'hot bodied women whom I'd do, but whose faces I find bring the fug in a major way' Nope, that's all on some man/men.
And I'd also be interested in knowing, now that it's also been acceptable to admit that women think about sex as often as men do, what would be the female-to-male equivalent term. It can't possibly be seen as a given that women never get horny enough to jump on some man they think is so homely they don't want to give the time of day to otherwise, but we don't have any cutesy pejoratives to describe it.
Your point is seriously that many women will happily marry a homely man, but a man would be grossed out by a homely wife? Why? Is she supposed to grow to love him like Ol' Faithful, because she's so glad to be rescued off the shelf by anything with male reproductive parts? Because that strikes me as the general point that elvira310 is trying to make in the first place.
Women have more choices because they can support themselves. If they don't find unattached doughy, homely, whatever, men attractive, they don't find them attractive. There's also no study or statistic I know of that says it's the sleek throngs of women taking care of themselves, who are the majority OR minority of women who are running around single in order to be chosen in the first place.
And it's no surprise to women that men don't consider that if they force some relationship with a woman who's not attracted to them and finally wear her down into marriage, their wife might have to hold her nose and think of Brad Pitt or James Purefoy to get it done in bed. None at all. A man's ego wouldn't allow for it. I snagged her, ergo, she thinks I'm attractive, and thus she's satisfied with this marriage and our sex life. Women have been told that old saw for centuries by Mama and Papa, until they joined the workforce. "We have arranged this marriage. You will grow to love him. We don't care if he's sixty with rotting teeth [outsized example], that is the way things are and will be for you." This is not radical and new.
As for me, I've dated some scrawny intellectuals in my time and found them sexually viable, I don't long for mesomorphs, but I'm not marrying some dude with womanly hips or an apple belly because I'm "tired of being alone". I'm just not. If a man doesn't think that he's got some flaw or collection of flaws (depending upon man) that would gross me out, simply because women don't get grossed out about anything about men's faces or bodies, that man has been sold a bill of goods. Women are capable of being turned off at the exact same rate as men.
He probably doesn't think women have affairs. They don't need to hold their nose, some will just cut off sex while getting it on the side from a hot guy.
He probably doesn't think women have affairs. They don't need to hold their nose, some will just cut off sex while getting it on the side from a hot guy.
I'll take the guy who knows female anatomy over the hot guy. You can always turn off the lights.
I'm speaking truth, with which many men here agree. It's fairly clear that personal attacks are meant to divert from the truth and what should be done about it (yeah, let's all pretend we're blameless and things are great). And, for the record, I'm not the utter failure with women that Elliot Rodger was.
By the way, another reason that today's men are so upset with women is that the Internet has allowed guys to know things like the quiet epidemic of female cheating, that in the past many men would have been unaware of and which also weren't as common back then.
I'm speaking truth, with which many men here agree. It's fairly clear that personal attacks are meant to divert from the truth and what should be done about it (yeah, let's all pretend we're blameless and things are great). And, for the record, I'm not the utter failure with women that Elliot Rodger was.
By the way, another reason that today's men are so upset with women is that the Internet has allowed guys to know things like the quiet epidemic of female cheating, that in the past many men would have been unaware of and which also weren't as common back then.
Oh good grief. Cheating is not an epidemic, nor is it gender-specific. The problem is some people spend too much time on the internet, can't discern fact from opinion, believe everything written on the internet is Truth, don't question sources, and quite frankly, worry far too much about what other people are doing in their personal lives.
The entertainment media has long depicted cheating as mostly done by men. Young males from respectable backgrounds who don't have much interaction with females might grow up thinking that's true. Then, largely from the Internet, find out that it isn't, contributing to their general anger and perhaps pushing them to overgeneralize that all women are bad.
I'm speaking truth, with which many men here agree.
What "truth"?
That women "owe" it to men to be pretty, and when women fail to be as pretty or as thin as they ought to be, men are angry (and have a right to be)? After all, it's her job.
That men are entitled to a pretty girlfriend or wife? Even if they aren't that great-looking, they expect a pretty wife/gf, because the media has taught them that, and they're angry if they're not getting it?
That if a woman doesn't cough up the required prettiness or thinness to mankind, she's taking something away from them and letting them down?
These are all attitudes that you have expressed (you've backpedaled on some of them, but they are there for all to see). I don't think many men agree with that, nope.
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You can always turn off the lights.
