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Old 05-24-2014, 11:32 PM
 
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And you think they're all capable of this kind of violence?
Of course not. There are levels of aggression. We have a guy in this thread blaming women for all that is wrong with the world. Maybe the worst he will do is verbal abuse. Or maybe someone else who shares these thoughts will pour a pitcher of beer over a woman's head (heard that one here too). Maybe another foreveralone guy who reaches his breaking point will do something worse but stop short of physical assault. Or not.

The issue isn't just the violent act, it is the hate messages these guys are receiving from the echo chamber of places like bodybuilding.com and other such sites that causes them to feel that they are justified in their misogyny. That was my original question in the OP if you want to read it again.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:32 PM
 
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I think I should point out again that 1 in 4 teen girls has STD's! Does this not concern anyone? We would all be better off if there were more virgins.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:33 PM
 
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Why would a woman want "a hot guy for at least one night"? For the most part, they want meaningful relationships.

Because he gets her horny? Women gladly put out for those guys. I've seen it first hand and I've had it happen to me. Women have casual sex more than they let on.


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And besides, I think you are wrong. There are many shy, average women who don't
draw the attention of even "average" men.

And again, shy women still get approached. Shy good looking woman and outgoing good looking women both get approached lots. The outgoing woman is going to be better at keeping interest, however.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:34 PM
 
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I think I should point out again that 1 in 4 teen girls has STD's! Does this not concern anyone? We would all be better off if there were more virgins.

Because in many cases, they're sleeping with the same guys; and these guys sleep with other girls and get STDs.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:34 PM
 
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Of course not. There are levels of aggression. We have a guy in this thread blaming women for all that is wrong with the world. Maybe the worst he will do is verbal abuse. Or maybe someone else who shares these thoughts will pour a pitcher of beer over a woman's head (heard that one here too). Maybe another foreveralone guy who reaches his breaking point will do something worse but stop short of physical assault. Or not.

The issue isn't just the violent act, it is the hate messages these guys are receiving from the echo chamber of places like bodybuilding.com and other such sites that causes them to feel that they are justified in their misogyny. That was my original question in the OP if you want to read it again.
Actually, it's the unrelenting callous lack of empathy or sympathy from people like you that cause them to feel that they are justified in their "misogyny."
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:35 PM
 
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Actually, it's the unrelenting callous lack of empathy or sympathy from people like you that cause them to feel that they are justified in their "misogyny."

People are cold, plain and simple. But it doesn't justify going on a killing spree.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:36 PM
 
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I think I should point out again that 1 in 4 teen girls has STD's! Does this not concern anyone? We would all be better off if there were more virgins.
Er, yes? Maybe a few of them should be female for a change.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:36 PM
 
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That is not true. There are many lonely women desperate for a boyfriend.

The challenge is how do these desperate women and desperate men find each other, especially since most of them are shy and socially awkward?






I'd have to think about this more.

But my initial thought is that if I was a shy, not-good-looking guy I would definitely not try to meet girls in bars.

I would head for some kind of artsy coffee-shop with a lot of nerdy-looking people, who are the kind of people I actually like and hang out with. Look for a plain girl in the corner reading, and sit near her, and practice your conversation skills. Become a regular at the coffee shop and let people get to know you.

I think very few people are actually ugly. Most people are average. So there are a lot of average looking women out there who would be pleased to be approached by an average-looking guy, maybe someone who is not obviously hitting on them, but who they get to know gradually over running into him at the same coffee shop over a period of time.
The problem is that shy people don't like to congregate in places like coffee shops. If they go there, they purposely avoid the person who catches their eye, because they feel real fear about the prospect of actually talking to this person. And they probably will not come back for a while, because they won't want to run into that person again and get judged. This is true for both sexes. Shy people go home after work and hide in their rooms.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:38 PM
 
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Because he gets her horny? Women gladly put out for those guys. I've seen it first hand and I've had it happen to me. Women have casual sex more than they let on.





And again, shy women still get approached. Shy good looking woman and outgoing good looking women both get approached lots. The outgoing woman is going to be better at keeping interest, however.
What about shy average-looking women, or shy not-good-looking women----you think they get approached so much?
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:39 PM
 
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What about shy average-looking women, or shy not-good-looking women----you think they get approached so much?

Obviously not as much as the good looking women, but yes they still get approached.
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