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Interesting you say to get a pet. I do have one (a cat, and have considered a dog), and if I didn't have her during my divorce and unemployment and the years following that nightmare, I probably wouldn't be here. Its a small comfort, but it was enough to get me through. I'm just so disappointed in my life and the disappointment is so hard to live with on a daily basis, despite appearing "successful". I live a very simple, boring life without any real joy.
You are making that decision yourself.
When I was gainfully employed I found things to do my myself - mostly going to concerts at small music venues, comedy shows, and sporting events. You live in a city and I'm sure you can find entertainment and things to do within an hour radious from where you live instead of staying home alone. You just might get lucky and meet someone but don't go out with that mindset.
If you don't want to be your own best friend then I am out of suggestions for you or someone else in your position.
You are successful. It's up to you to take advantage of it.
I know exactly what would drive me to suicide. About 6 years ago my wife left me AND I was unemployed at the time. That almost did it. So now 6 years later I'm 46 with no real family and my career has been so bad up until a couple of years ago that I'll never be able to retire. Also for me, the thought of growing old alone scares me. Additionally, I have very few friends in my new city (had to move for the job), and lost all the old ones in my divorce. I have nobody who loves me, basically. So if I ended up losing this job, it would likely be the end of my career and I have no support system. Its pretty simple, really. There'd be nothing left for me. I don't obsess over the thought, but I've made up my mind. Life has been a tremendous disappointment for me. I actually think its only a matter of time (maybe several years, but if I'm alone with no life at 50, very possible).
I know life can seem hopeless and depressing- I think about ending my life alot.
I hope you don't end up ending your life at some point.
Good folks, I sincerely hope none of you will end up taking your lives. I believe there has to be a way to overcome the gloom and pain and unhappiness so many of us endure, myself included.
What I have done for myself is to take therapeutic doses of micro-nutrients (magnesium is great for anxiety for example) and that includes a supposedly GABA boosting substance found in young tea leaves, L-Theanine. Has L-Theanine helped? Actually it has. Another thing I'm taking is heaps of raw cashews. It is claimed that clinical trials have shown that cashews are as good for depression as Prozac. So I tried them and it does work! I'm also on medication but not third generation drugs with their associated side effects.
When I first moved in with my partner I was in a deep depression and I found her little dogs to be a great comfort. The one would sleep on the bed up against me and I would touch her in the night. Now she's not allowed on the bed.
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I'm just so disappointed in my life and the disappointment is so hard to live with on a daily basis,
I hear you. I have lost everything, my younger son to drugs (he's still alive though), my wife as a result, my home, my family, most of my money my older son. Yes, the disappointment is indeed difficult to live with on a daily basis.
Teenage suicide is much more impulsively driven than adult suicide.
It certainly can be but who's to say whether these kids might not have had a mental health illness that had not been looked into and diagnosed. It's sometimes distressing to read the comment sections of sad or angry songs on youtube. You see people, many times teens, speak of cutting and other self harm as well as other things such as being abused. Their pain is real and like adults with this illness most will continue on trying to cope and get better, many go untreated, for others pills don't work or make them tired and feel crappy. They think of suicide but either not do it or have tried and not been successful. This is all similar to the pattern of adults.
Atlguy39, You should consider getting a dog. I love cats too, but dogs are so intuitive to human needs, so loyal and fun to have around. I have do have some brats though. One of my Beagles got up on my computer chair and stole the Velveeta cheese off the table, took the whole box. She looked so funny with that box in her mouth it was hard to be mad. There are so many that need good homes, it's really sad. You can find one that gets along with cats. Have you tried volunteering at a no kill animal shelter? You might enjoy it and you'd meet people too. Most of those types giving their time aren't phonies.
303Guy, I've tried about everything, herbs and meds. I have severe anxiety attacks, so much for that it's an effort to get to the store. The Cashews are suppose to help due to the L-tryptophan. But I've tried that, even the best grad of L-tryptophan in capsule form. Pumpkin and Sesame Seeds are cheaper and also have pretty high amounts of tryptophan too if ya like them. Glad something is working for you.
I think the biggest thing is when one loses hope, to feel beaten down from it all and see nothing more. No hopes, dreams, plans, nobody but you. Ya know people with cancer and other very serious debilitating long diseases do better when they have the support of loved ones. If one is sick and alone it's more likely one will feel more depressed and not see the point in continuing to try. I knew a guy that had a serious heart problem that eventually killed him. He said the depression was the hardest part to deal with. And this was a guy that had a wife, adult kids and other family. There is a great deal of difference between existing and living.
It certainly can be but who's to say whether these kids might not have had a mental health illness that had not been looked into and diagnosed.
Most likely. An emotionally healthy teenager probably would not consider suicide, even impulsively. Someone with clinical depression already has an altered brain chemistry, and the majority of teenagers who take their lives have clinical depression. We might laugh off the break up of a teen romance, but it can be devastating to the teenager. (Look at that 15 year old from Washington State...and it sounds as if he had a lot of other issues as well.)
Well, my dear friend with Bipolar 1, she has very bad rapid cycling, and she has shared with me it's so overwhelming. Imagine going through several major mood cycles in the day, extremely depressed to manic psychotic by the end of day.
She has OD'd on pills and alcohol. She confided she wasn't looking to end her life but just kept taking pills until she no longer felt pain and then fell asleep and woke up violently ill.
Bipolar 1 is awful to live with. Inger Stevens was BP1, she ended up killing herself, many with bp1 do. They say Marilyn Monroe was also bipolar. Bipolar 1 is hell to hell to live with if medications don't work or create to many side effects to stay on. It's sad that many homeless people have mental health problems. I was reading there are a good number of folks with mental health issues in jail on Rikers Island, rather than treat the problem they get thrown in jail for their abnormal behaviors. Then in jail they maybe get beaten by guards, as has happened at Rikers. It's the same with those addicted to drugs, they are often hauled in for petty offenses and end up sitting in jail as they come off the drugs. Drug treatment programs have limited spaces so not everyone gets in. So they are released and go back to the streets, and the cycle repeats itself. Society looks down on folks with mental health or drug problems unless they are celebrities, those people get a free pass for whatever they do. Whether it's killing themselves with drugs or suicide you find the media and the American sheep have nothing unkind to say. But the homeless guy that died from drugs or the woman that jumped from the parking garage, they get reamed by folks on news sites and forums. I see that as very hypocritical and stupid behavior. You would think in 2014 people would be more educated and understanding with regard to MH issues, but the stigma is still there. You hear stupid people say to just get over it or some other trite platitude. It only shows their colossal ignorance on the realities of depression and related issues. If types like that had to live with it for just one day, they would change their tune in an instant.
Bipolar 2 is very under diagnosed. Bipolar types don't usually respond to antidepressants. People can be Bipolar 2 and not show the high side, that high side can come out as anxiety or anger/frustration and like that. I'm like that with moods, a very back and forth thing but my high is still very low at best. I can't tell you how I'll be in an hour. It makes it hard to get stuff done, it's very debilitating. It's really hard to live with this without meds that work and then add on being alone which makes it worse still as there is nobody that has your back and can help do stuff when you can't. The sad part is doc's don't take enough time to really evaluate a person. I used to say the doc might as well just throw a dart at the board with all the meds on it, as it's a trial and error thing to find a med that works. Layman can do that much, read and decide which med might be the best to try. When you have a **** poor doc that really couldn't care less it makes people worse, as ya don't have the clinical support they need. I've had some of the worst docs you could imagine at the VA, but then I tried a couple quacks on the outside too and they were no better with regards to caring and taking the time to really evaluate. I asked one doc if I could be bp2, her reply was could be. I knew that much myself. Doc's don't like patients that are well read on medicines either, it makes them defensive and takes away from their God like image. More than once I have refused to try a med because of the number of serious side effects it can produce. The docs don't care about that, it's not them that has to deal with it. But patients are suppose to be like sheep and not question the all knowing one.
Bipolar types don't usually respond to antidepressants.
Asperger's types too it seems. I wonder if there is a link. I also wonder whether my son was bipolar. He was not diagnosed as such but how well do I trust diagnosis? When ever we took him to a specialist he would be bright and cheerful! Then he would go back to being gloomy and stressed afterwards.
A thought that has crossed my mind; during the Walls Street crash a number of traders jumped to their death. Not surprising really when one considers they were borrowing big money to speculate with so they didn't just lose their fortune, they were lost money that wasn't theirs! They were in the dwang! So I'm wondering whether these people were 'on the spectrum', highly excitable and running on an adrenalin high? Could they have been bipolar types?
Who knows about those Wall Street traders, anything is possible. But I think it was more likely due to fear, thinking they will end up in prison, they snap. And usually the rich thieves end up with a sweet deal in a minimum security facility and still have money hidden away for when they get out. More than one story about folks stealing millions from charities and not even getting a jail term. You hear of criminals cornered and killing themselves too. When they capture some vile violent thug without resisting, I'm always thinking too bad he didn't resist.
As far as trusting the doc's diagnosis, you'd have to have some trust and respect for the doc, and I've yet to find one like that. Most of them don't care, and they really don't like patients that are hard to treat. They seem to assume everyone that comes in complaining of depression has a chemical imbalance, that without any testing at all and just a brief visit. And if so what chemical might it be, there are meds that raise dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine. And they tend to overlook bipolar 2, if it doesn't fit the exact classic profile. I'm surprised they don't yet have a drive thru psychiatrist, about 10 minutes or so talking, then on to window 2 to pick up pills and pay.
Have you read about Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation? It's something different, I'd like to try it, but it requires ya go in everyday for like 5 weeks or so. the sessions are about 45 minutes. Living far from the city and alone no way I could do that. It's very expensive too (10-15k) and not very many insurance carriers yet cover it. So if one is poor and has little to no insurance how is one suppose to be able to try it? I had heard they were going to get it at the VA hospitals, which would be a help to veterans.
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