When is someone disordered and when is it just a bad character?

[NinaN]

I agree with borderline. Which would make a conversation with her about it most likely unproductive and quite heated.

[TabulaRasa]

Many true personality disorders are very difficult to successfully treat, and don't respond well to a wide range of treatments.

[texdav]

Originally Posted by Kibbiekat

Sounds bipolar.

Or just another drama queen who lives for making others lifes hell. Called a bad person .

[WeHa]

Originally Posted by TabulaRasa

Many true personality disorders are very difficult to successfully treat, and don't respond well to a wide range of treatments.

That's not entirely true, especially with BPD. It's no longer a hopeless diagnosis that can't be helped or fixed. There has been great success treating BPD with Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT), but it still goes back to what I and others have said, if she doesn't want to change or get healthy their's nothing you can do for her.

[winterbird]

Nina N - I've been reading some experiences from those dealing with borderline pd and they agree with you.

TabulaRasa - ty for commenting, I'm preparing that this may be a long battle

WeHa - Hopefully, she's ready for a change. I have to prepare if she isn't. Thank you for providing a treatment option that we may need.

texdav - My brothers, an uncle and my husband agree with you. And a huge part of me does too.

[Nonchalance]

Originally Posted by winterbird

CA4Now. I know... was just making a joke. So you think personality disorders are learned behaviors? I don't disagree. I'm trying to learn of an effective approach to take. Which would you take?

I'm asking if anyone would approach the person to try and help? If not, why? If so, how? I mean, I guess I have to try and see if change is desired first.

Some of them are true mental illnesses and can be helped by meds. It's foolish to say otherwise (would anyone say schizophrenia is a 'learned behavior?'), and in this case, a doctor's visit is absolute necessity.

[winterbird]

My post was worded wrongly, I guess. Of course, there are true mental illnesses. Forget my point at the time I made the post, so I can't clarify now.

Thank you for your thoughts nonchalance.

[Nonchalance]

Originally Posted by winterbird

My post was worded wrongly, I guess. Of course, there are true mental illnesses. Forget my point at the time I made the post, so I can't clarify now.

Thank you for your thoughts nonchalance.

And of course there are also spoiled brats.

Hence the need for real medical diagnosis.