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He does have a point. It's the guy that often has to do a lot of work in starting up/keeping a relationship. It's one of the main reasons I'm not dealing with women.
Well, maybe you're looking at the wrong kind of women. I'm just sort of kidding but there are definitely women out there looking to use men just as there are men who are looking to use women.
Firecross came across as someone whose that way. His post drips selfishness, bitterness, and animosity, not to an individual, but to all women, which says a whole lot about him and his underlying bad attitude.
And seriously, is this even an issue? Do men really not say "good morning" to a casual acquaintance in public because they're afraid of being accused of rape? That's a healthy way to go through life.
I don't say "Good morning" to women that have the "B*** face" turned on. I fear they'll give me a dirty look or call me a creep in front of a crowd of people. It's easier to to use tinder, at least you know they're sort of attracted to you. Ha
Anyway, this thread is out of control, just man vs woman bashing session. Ridiculous. I really don't see THAT many people who are socially awkward in my daily travels. I'm pretty socially awkward myself but I still manage to talk to the people sititing by me at the bar, in the checkout que, whatever. I actually find guys easier to talk to than women, I don't have to worry about them thinking I'm hitting on them. Haha
I get shut down every once in awhile when I try talking to people, no big deal. Maybe he/she has had a bad day or is just in a rut. None of my business. I've definitely had some periods in my life where I came off rude to strangers. I still do at times.
Women go to college because it's drilled into their heads throughout school and the trades are not quite as appealing to them. Men are more attracted to the trades, which is fine. They are rewarding careers as well. Slackers come from both genders, there's plenty of uneducated waitresses and buss boys running around. Some of them are actually good people too!
After reading this thread I wonder how many of you actually leave your man cave or den of cats.
Maybe you should delve deeper into why boys and young men are acting this way. What incentive is there for boys and young men to pursue women these days? Marriage is now all liability with 50% divorce rates, in the USA and family courts aren't exactly father friendly. Women advertise themselves non-stop over social media in scantly clad outfits, even when dating or married for male attention. The pickup women scene is now incredibly dangerous with false rape accusations where a woman can retract her consent after the fact when she wakes up next to some guy "she found creepy the next morning."
Video games and anime can't financially and emotionally rape you in a divorce court situation or accuse you of rape because she got drunk and regrets her decision to sleep with you.
If we're being honest and not politically correct, what does that say about the quality of women in general today when Video Games and Anime get top billing? Why in the hell would I put up with endless nagging, ****-tests, all the other BS that comes with a relation**** for what, 10mins of sex? I rather buy a prostitute and kick her ass out of bed when finished. The juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore, only women themselves have to blame for that.
Did you ever figure that maybe its women that need to step up their game? Perhaps these men find women too lame to bother. I am instantly turned off and classify a woman as "another vapid idiot" when the first thing I do is browse their instagram and see 200 selfies where she looks like a clown in all her makeup.
By buying into the weird subculture existing right now peddling self-help crap and pimping blogs and seminars about how men need to protect themselves from purportedly nefarious women and their supposedly nefarious leech-like and litigious intent in forming relationships, you are creating your own social isolation and other problems.
For those for whom video games and anime and porn get top billing over real-life socialization, what does that say? It says that video games, anime, and porn are easy. Relationships and healthy socialization take skill and effort. Solitary, cerebral, and/or isolated activities to the exclusion of those with built-in face-to-face human interaction are by design escapes from the effort of exercising social skills.
Well, just know that if you can't get a decent job -- or possibly any job -- because you don't feel the need to have social interactions with people, don't complain.
Not sure why you're telling me this. I actually work with the public and have a healthy social life thank you very much
The OP is a guy, so I doubt that the reason awkward guys don't respond to basic social pleasantries has much to do with their responses being potentially "construed as rape" in this particular situation.
Point being some of these socially awkward video game/anime addicts are not approaching/stepping to girls or not even saying "hi" is that they are taught to believe everything is sexual harassment, they are afraid of consequences. Sorry I had to explain it so in depth.
By buying into the weird subculture existing right now peddling self-help crap and pimping blogs and seminars about how men need to protect themselves from purportedly nefarious women and their supposedly nefarious leech-like and litigious intent in forming relationships, you are creating your own social isolation and other problems.
For those for whom video games and anime and porn get top billing over real-life socialization, what does that say? It says that video games, anime, and porn are easy. Relationships and healthy socialization take skill and effort. Solitary, cerebral, and/or isolated activities to the exclusion of those with built-in face-to-face human interaction are by design escapes from the effort of exercising social skills.
Easy for you to say.
Basic social interaction (ie saying "Hi") like what the OP was mentioning is one thing. Trying to socialize in a more complex manner (such as a relationship) is another.
I have a mental condition that makes it harder for me to socialize on a more complex scale. I also get extremely exhausted if I'm in an environment with a high level of activity for a long time.
The only time I can hold a conversation for a while is if said conversation has something that interests me in it. Otherwise, I just get completely bored and shut my thought process off.
One thing I don't lack, though, is speaking my mind in public. I used to be very shy, but these last few years this shyness has vanished, and I haven't been afraid to complain to others when I'm getting bothered with something.
And how many of them were raised in single-parent, female headed, or merely female-dominated households? Or get most of their cueing for social situations where Hollywood and Madison Avenue are working to impose an entirely different set of values? What can we expect when the media conditions its groupies treat every single male but more so if white and of middle-class appearance, as a potential Ted Bundy?
I have no quarrel with the basics behind the emancipation of our women: it's unstoppable, and as in so many other situations, those who can adapt are doing better than ever. But there are some very strange cases out there on the fringes. Their numbers are growing rapidly, and the extreme cases are becoming more extreme. And the Politically Correct Police are powerless to answer this one.
WOW, just wow. Do you actually believe the media, the people who WORSHIP men like Tom Brady, Bradley Cooper, Jon Stewart, Blake Shelton, John Mayer, Rickie Fowler, Elon Musk, Steven Spielberg, Tom Cruise, Justin Bieber, Peyton Manning, etc., etc., etc., are treating all white men like they are crazed killers?
Men are still paid more than women and have far more immediate access to the media than women do, unless they take the women at least some of their clothes off for a living.
WOW, just wow. Do you actually believe the media, the people who WORSHIP men like Tom Brady, Bradley Cooper, Jon Stewart, Blake Shelton, John Mayer, Rickie Fowler, Elon Musk, Steven Spielberg, Tom Cruise, Justin Bieber, Peyton Manning, etc., etc., etc., are treating all white men like they are crazed killers?
Men are still paid more than women and have far more immediate access to the media than women do, unless they take the women at least some of their clothes off for a living.
Who they "worship" is not the question in this instance; they are manipulating and pandering to the insecurities of the youngsters, male and female alike, who are their primary source of revenue; trying to create a fantasy world that doesn't, and can't exist, and emphasizing traits like spontaneity, vulnerability, and emotionalism which most societies have for centuries conditioned their young men to suppress.
Is it any wonder that more young men are falling through the cracks and emerging with a twisted sense of identity and self-worth?
Below is a link to a real-life "Exhibit A" for you to think about:
What do you expect from liberal millennials? They lost their spine and have no strength. This generation is effeminate and weak
Still bitter about the elections eh? You need to let it go dude. Times change, stop whining and deal.
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