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Old 05-09-2016, 06:52 PM
 
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I wish some of you would stop explaining the obvious.
and what would that be??


ohhhh ruuuuuubi....... for gods sake turn-around
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I wish some of you would stop explaining the obvious.
Apparently some people need to have "the obvious" explained to them.
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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There's a reason that words matter. They have meanings.
If words "have meanings", why do we need dictionaries to tell what they mean?
If you hear/see a word your unfamiliar with, how come you can't see the meaning it "has"?
Dictionaries are not law books, they don't decree the meaning of words. Dictionaries are reference books telling how people are using specific words.
Words are used by people, then they are recorded in books for others to use, hence the definitions.
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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If words "have meanings", why do we need dictionaries to tell what they mean?
If you hear/see a word your unfamiliar with, how come you can't see the meaning it "has"?
Dictionaries are not law books, they don't decree the meaning of words. Dictionaries are reference books telling how people are using specific words.
Words are used by people, then they are recorded in books for others to use, hence the definitions.
Because we aren't born knowing their meanings.

Learning is a process, and this thread isn't about the amygdala so not sure why you are interested.
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Because we aren't born knowing their meanings.

Learning is a process, and this thread isn't about the amygdala so not sure why you are interested.
Your right, we aren't born knowing words or the meanings we attach to words.
Amygdalae react to words,(thoughts) 'as if' they were perceptions. That's why I'm interested.
I like to remind people that by having been conditioned to believe (some) words 'are' perceptions, we lose sight of the fact that thoughts are 'only' thoughts; so why react emotionally to what you construct with words,(thoughts).

see #38 in my thread; "What's the outcome when we unknowingly assume a perception?"
The original structural design of amygdalae was to react to perceptions, (primarily for survival).
When 'mankind' evolved, we figured out how to utilize the function of amygdalae. By deceiving amygdalae to react to thoughts 'as if' they were perceptions, (very ingenious use of thought).

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Old 05-10-2016, 06:41 AM
 
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How do we know it's not the opposite? Being, or having emotions that go up & down is just a part of life.
Yes, the symptoms of the disorders are part of life; however, what makes them clinical disorders is that they negatively impact normal life. Just like drinking alcohol can be "just part of life" , it becomes a clinical disorder (alcoholism) when drinking disrupts life.
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:55 AM
 
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If words "have meanings", why do we need dictionaries to tell what they mean?
If you hear/see a word your unfamiliar with, how come you can't see the meaning it "has"?
Dictionaries are not law books, they don't decree the meaning of words. Dictionaries are reference books telling how people are using specific words.
Words are used by people, then they are recorded in books for others to use, hence the definitions.
A perfect example, then, of Humpty Dumpty's logic.


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'And only one for birthday presents, you know.' Said Humpty Dumpty. 'There's glory for you!'


'I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.


Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't — till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'


'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'


'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'


'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master — that's all.'

Words have meaning because social groups agree to give meanings to specific patterns of grunts. Dictionaries are the result of that agreement. Without that agreement, we don't have language, we merely have meaningless grunts.
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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Words have meaning because social groups agree to give meanings to specific patterns of grunts. Dictionaries are the result of that agreement. Without that agreement, we don't have language, we merely have meaningless grunts.[/QUOTE

"Words have meanings"? Or do we "have meanings for words" by agreement?
It may be semantics but it's a important distinction.
Sugar pills "do not HAVE medicinal properties but we attribute they do by (mistakenly) "believing' they do and react to our beliefs/meanings we 'give'.
When we take our agreements seriously, we mistakenly believe "our meanings" are "in" the words instead of 'in' us. (Our agreements, as meanings are 'in' us as well.)
Foreign words show that meanings are "not IN the words but 'in' the users of words.
When driving across USA, we see signs that say you left a state and now entering another; do you see the dividing line? No, but we accept the 'agreement' of our imagined dividing line.
Donald Trump says he will build a wall; thereby making visible the agreement that there IS a line.( we only imagine there's one and agree on what we imagine.)

Are you using Humpty Dumpty logic; and not recognizing doing so?

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Old 05-10-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: tampa bay
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I know many of my friends throw the term OCD around quiet often...as in oh you are so OCD because you...fill in the blank with some trivial act...but I have been around a person that truly has been diagnosed with OCD...it is all consuming...they experience intrusive thoughts and even performing the repetitive rituals don't give them more than a passing relief...only to have the anxiety begin all over again...so no not everyone has a mental illness...
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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Amygdalae are in charge of survival,(indisputably). In that respect, we are subservient to their 'directions'; but they often make 'mistakes'. It's up to us to,make corrections, that means we "can" regulate our amygdalae.
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