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It's possible that millennials are in fact more materialistic than past generations. In terms of being entitled I don't really see it...we are the generation that goes into $12,000 into debt trying to get an education and then not having the guarantee of employment after. The percentage of people with bacherlor's degrees has gotten so high that it has diluted the value of a college education. We are the generation that works 40 hours per week at unpaid internships because we are told we need experience to get jobs, only to be told this experience is not enough to get full time employment. When we do get jobs there are likely not as many pensions, 401k's or health benefits as there were in the past. We pay into a social security system that almost certainly we will never see a dime out of.
You know part of it I think is just your age, your generation is only a small part of the picture.
Humans are animals and have normal ranges of immaturity, growth, etc. 25 yo is about when many people start to mature and in the next 5 years you will see whether some of your friends are psychologically immature and will never change which can be a personality thing from general to severe.
So I am not sure you should take your generational "place" too seriously.
For example when I was a teen my generation had no name yet. The press was not interested in us. They were somewhat focused on the Baby Boomers. It was nice in a way because there was not a stereotype. However oddly when I got to be in my late twenties a guy who was a few years older than me coined the term Generation X. I read his book and I liked it and thought it fit pretty well. Copeland the author was born in 61'.
Ironically the press that year, the "media" was just starting to be interested in naming things again and so they took that term and gave it to the generation after me.
I just looked up the term again just now and lo and behold a decade has passed and they now are calling us Gen Xers again! wow and I am still born the same year I was then!
So, wah wah, not real meaning. Some charts have me as Baby Boomer (ha! no way) others as Gen X or nothing at all. I prefer it that way.
You two hit the nail on the head. This is why this thread should be taken with a grain of salt. If everyone who is responding to this thread would look up the past threads the OP has made then you would all realize that the problem doesn't lie with millennials or anyone else, it lies with the OP.
OP if you sound as negative and shrill in real life as you do on here then it is no wonder that millennials are not willing to socialize with you. Hell I doubt any person no matter how old they are would be willing to put up with such negativity and pessimism for such a prolonged period of time if this is how you carry yourself.
Please take your "the world and everything in it sucks" act to the older folks and see how long they will tolerate it.
I am an older Millennial, born in 1983 with the cutoff year being 1981. Some people call us Xennials because social media came around when we were in our 20s. As I'm getting into my 30s I increasingly identify more with Gen X as many younger Millennials embrace the culture of victimhood and entitlement. Part of it is because I was raised in a more old fashion way in a rural area. From a young age I was expected to do chores like cleaning briar patches with a blade, gardening, even killing snakes that came in the yard. On occasion I was whipped with a belt or switch from a tree branch. I've never felt it was close to abuse. There are good things about young people today (they really want to be accepting of others) but most of them were treated like emperors from birth and they think that any competition is bad because everyone should get the same trophy. For now I blame their baby boomer and Gen X parents, but eventually they will have to change or Western civilization won't last much longer.
They don't care, because they are accepting of all cultures and why should western civilization be better than anything else, that is like, racist.
They don't care, because they are accepting of all cultures and why should western civilization be better than anything else, that is like, racist.
Accepting is OK, if what is being accepted is rational and productive. But let's call a thing what it is and identify reality. Western Civilization is the apex of humanity and the best that has been invented and lived, and all other cultures look up to it, not across from it.
Of course threads like this being out the disgruntled and contemptuous who already have an ax to grind with millennial because of differing political views. How sad.
Most people want the same opportunities they saw their parents get. When this gets voiced en mass, and it does not matter how likely or unlikely those opportunities are in current times, it is perceived as entitled.
Most people want the same opportunities they saw their parents get. When this gets voiced en mass, and it does not matter how likely or unlikely those opportunities are in current times, it is perceived as entitled.
I couldn't agree more. Why shouldn't a millineal expect to be able to get a decent job after college? Because they aren't asking for too much. After all, that's exactly what their parents did. But it doesn't work anymore. And their parents know that. Yet they still STILL pushing their high schoolers to go to college knowing full well that it won't help them get a job and will mostly just earn them boatloads of debt instead. I suspect it's because parents don't know what else to suggest and somehow believe that their kids will end up prostitutes or drug dealers if they don't complete their Bachelor's degrees.
A few of my neighbor's kids just graduated high school, and instead of going to college like their parents wanted, they either joined the military or started low paying jobs and are hoping to earn promotions slowly over the years. They have learned to get ahead in their own way.
I was born in 1991 and thus belong to what you could call the millennial generation. Most people who hate on generations are hating on other ones, but I find myself utterly despising other millennials and pretty much agree with most of the bad things that have been said about them (I don't actually live in the USA by the way but things are not so much different where I live in regards to how millennials behave).
The biggest reason I despise them is how little they seem to actually care about anything but themselves. Don't get me wrong, I don't think some kind of socialist collectivism is better than capitalism or anything, but I still think people should be willing to make SOME sacrifices for the greater good and NOT consider themselves the to be the center of the universe. I think the biggest reason I am not really the same as most other millennials is that I am one of the only people I know that actually had a strict dad. I got spanked if I did not behave (which by the way, is now illegal to do and is considered child abuse...), so there was nothing open to debate in regards to who was in charge when I was a child. There were no negotiations with my dad, he commanded and I listened if I knew what was good for me.
A perfect example of how narcissistic my generation has become and a big reason for why I hate it is how it seems utterly disinterested in ever having a true face to face conversation with you. Or for that matter, even a conversation over the phone. Because that you see, would require actual effort to do! Oh, how can the poor millennials be expected to dedicate THEIR valuable time talking to another person when they could just spend 10-20 seconds crafting a simple text message and then spend the saved time on themselves!
I am dead ****ing serious. Try to contact a millennial that you don't already know very well and try to convince them to actually TALK to you instead of just sending a few simple texts. 90% of the time they can't be bothered. In fact, even WHEN they are doing something with others like going out for dinner, they STILL can't keep themselves away from their phones which just goes to show just how little they actually respect the person they are with. Other people are only toys or gadgets to millennials just like their stupid phones, nothing more.
Any other millennials here who utterly hate millennials even though they themselves are also millennial?
you are doing a fine job! Lay low and keep a list of those types you are describing. When the time comes (you will know when) bring your list(s) to one of our processing centers and tell them; "Dick Van Dyke sent me"
America has been obsessed with youth and "youth culture" since at least WW II. I don't think it's a healthy obsession, and it is certainly not one that has much of a history that I can see.
In past centuries, kids became adults much earlier in terms of their responsibilities (working on the farm, for example), but at the same time people were less mobile, more of them lived in small communities, and the extended family took pressure off of both kids and parents.
America is unique in its expectation that kids will move out of the house at age 18 to go to college, get a job and an apartment, or join the military. Living with your parents into your thirties and forties is not considered normal or acceptable. The result is that you likely live with roommates (strangers) instead.
Just looking at this from an economic standpoint, you can see that huge amounts of money and time are wasted by failing to share resources and insisting on being totally independent. Looking at it from a psychological standpoint, you can see that a distorted mentality and world view are likely to result from one's peer group -- of mostly strangers, who are transient -- being the most important role model, combined with isolation and segregation from other generations, both younger and older.
The wisdom of experience that some older people possess, and the spontaneity of those who are younger, are denied to each generation when generations are segregated from each other. Being confined to one's own age group leads to rank conformity and sterility.
The problems above apply to all generations born during or after WW II. But there are four particular problems I see with millennials -- which possibly affected Generation X as well.
1) Both parents working; 2) schools indoctrinating students with political correctness and all the liberal/left "isms"; 3) teachers dressing like kids instead of adults; 4) kids not being allowed to play outside unsupervised for long periods of time.
If any of these generations -- from the boomers to the millennials -- are to be criticized, we should recognize that they were raised to be what they became. But that doesn't excuse everything that we do. We can be passive victims of our upbringing and culture, or we can work to recognize what is wrong and try to change things for the better -- perhaps by joining intentional communities that go against the norm.
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so your about 25 yo?
