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Old 07-22-2016, 07:50 AM
 
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I've known brilliant people who yammer on endlessly. Lack of confidence does not equal lack of intelligence.
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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If that were true the entire American populace is made up of dolts.
The American populace talk so they can seen smart, but most appear dumb.
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Old 07-22-2016, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Funkotron, MA
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If that were true the entire American populace is made up of dolts.
We are close to electing Donald Trump as president so...
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Old 07-22-2016, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I was very quiet as a kid.

I did well, very well, in school, but seldom took part in class discussions, and always felt overwhelmingly apologetic when I did. I was not especially confident in verbalizing my thoughts, and was a shy, nonconfrontational child. I seldom asked questions, preferring instead to look things up or dig deeper on my own, versus open myself up to criticism for needing elaboration.

I outgrew it, gained confidence, and as an older teen, college student, and adult, speak my mind freely and mostly tactfully, question when I have questions. I stopped being afraid to speak.

I don't think anything about my intellectual capabilities changed with my evolving to speak more, and with more authority and confidence. I was an intelligent person then, and I'm an intelligent person now.
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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Depends on what kind of job you're looking for - but yes, in the vast majority of non-research jobs - you do have to know enough, but most of the time, there are quite a few people who know enough. Once that threshold is reached - it's presentation and people skills, all the way. The "most" knowledge is simply not necessary.
I guess it's all semantics but that's the thing I don't have the knowledge of marketing myself successfully so I can't classify myself as having enough knowledge. I really don't have the brain power to know what they want from me.
Also it seems like even the most basic of jobs want you to know something about company but I tend to forget the details because the businesses themselves don't generally interest me as I'm not passionate about economics/finance so in trying to research I forget a lot of details.
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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I've always known this.

It


Quiet people are too busy thinking to talk.
The quietest people are the ones inside their heads.

They’re chronic over-thinkers. They may want to start a conversation, but they’re busy thinking about that conversation’s possible outcomes

Quiet people write and read more than they speak.
Quiet, intelligent people focus their energy on creating. They aren’t spending their free time out at the bar; they’re spending it reading and writing.

Quiet people have stronger brains because they take time to reflect.
The best thing you can do for your brain is to give it a break and allow it to soak up what’s around you.

Quiet people aren't loners; they just value learning over gossip.
Some of the most intelligent people are introverts. According to an interview in Scientific America with Susan Cain, author of the book “Quiet: The Power of Introverts”:

Quiet people don’t blabber; they listen.
The smartest people are the ones who are quietly listening and absorbing everything that is being said around them. These people have the most knowledge because they’re processing words instead of speaking them.
No. This is a generalization. You can't know this unless you test every person in the world.

There are just as many brains in people who talk more as there are in people who listen.
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Old 07-22-2016, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I like the study in this legitimate article better:

http://www.fastcompany.com/3040075/l...ly-judging-you

Both studies reached a similar conclusion: The more introverted among the groups tended to view their more extroverted teammates—whether real or fictional—as less capable at their assigned duties. One possible takeaway? Judgments of your job performance are never purely performance-based.

"The magnitude with which introverts underrated performance of extroverts was surprising," said co-author Keith Leavitt, an assistant professor in OSU's College of Business, in a statement. "The results were very consistent across both studies."


It proves the phenomenon exhibited in this OP, which is that many introverts just THINK they're better/smarter/more capable than extroverts.

So before you get carried away, OP, don't confuse smugness with genius.

Signed, a humble INTP
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Old 07-22-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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Maybe it's true in some way, maybe not. I'm not going to say either way what my opinion is on this.


I have a problem with making generalizations about people based on some superficial characteristic.


Even if 90% of the people with the superficial characteristic have the attribute, you have no way of knowing whether that person sitting standing in front of you is one of 90% or the 10%. But too many people seem to think it's going to be 100% all the time. They see one example that verifies the belief, and for them it's always true.
And of course I'm actually talking about race and cultural differences, but it is the same kind of thinking.


It is better to just not play this game.
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Old 07-22-2016, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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How are we defining characteristics as "superficial?"
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Old 07-22-2016, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Floyd Co, VA
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There's a humorous quote that goes something like this: "It's interesting how the people who know the least about something have the most to say about it".
I could not help but think of this when reading your quote:

As Read: The fabled Andy Letter | Car Talk

You have to read it all the way to the end.
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