What is this MGTOW... (men, woman, marriage, adult)

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by MoonBeam33

Absolutely none of that has anything to do with feminism. Feminism is not about being compassionate only to the struggles of women, or hating all men because of the actions of some. If that's what you believe or someone has told you, you should try reading some actual feminist literature and writings rather than watching youtube video rants. Really.

There are a lot of misinformation and erroneous beliefs floating around about what feminism is.

[TamaraSavannah]

Hmmmmm, it sound like the boy form of ............................

"The more I know about men, the more I love my cat/dog/horse.".

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by MillennialUrbanist

While I had many factors throughout my life that pushed me into MGTOW, the last straw was seeing my friends change when their relationships got serious. They became the most insular, codependent, and introverted people I ever saw! Very uncharacteristic of 30-somethings. Our social circle also took on a ranking system, where men in relationships are cool, and single men are like nerds in high school; no idea what "rank" single women fit into. Which, ironically, motivates me not to have a relationship of my own. Not now, not ever.

So why don't you join a Male Friends Going Their Own Way group?

Basically your complaint has been that your male friends have dumped you, and you can't get over that, and somehow that translates into don't date women.

I have female friends who disappear as soon as they get together with someone, and I have some who don't. It's part of life. I sure as heck wouldn't have stopped dating over it, or twist it to be mad a men.

[MillennialUrbanist]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

So why don't you join a Male Friends Going Their Own Way group?

Basically your complaint has been that your male friends have dumped you, and you can't get over that, and somehow that translates into don't date women.

I have female friends who disappear as soon as they get together with someone, and I have some who don't. It's part of life. I sure as heck wouldn't have stopped dating over it, or twist it to be mad a men.

Such a thing already kind of exists: Meetup. Well, quasi; there are both men and women in it. I ended up getting heavily involved in a series of Meetup groups, where I always have tons of fun. People respect me and think highly of me, and even invited me to hang out "organically" a few times. They're good planners, too. Best of all, there's no ranking system that evaluates you based on your relationship status, even though there are several couples in the groups. Still, they could never fully replace best friends of 17 years.

As for my "complaint", I never said I MGTOW'ed because my friends dumped me. I just said it was the last straw. Before then, there were many, many little incidents that slowly eroded by desire for a relationship. Some involved my family of origin. Some involved my exes. Some involved what's depicted in the media. Basically, death by a thousand cuts. But the last one was the unkindest cut of all.

[Mikala43]

Yeah, but Meet-up isn't going your own way, it's getting new friends.

I like Meet-up too, I use it for photography stuff which my husband doesn't enjoy as much, will probably join some exercise groups to mix it up a bit, but ONLY if it doesn't interfere with spending time with DH. Which is kinda your complaint....... we got married BECAUSE we like to spend time together.

[MillennialUrbanist]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

Yeah, but Meet-up isn't going your own way, it's getting new friends.

I like Meet-up too, I use it for photography stuff which my husband doesn't enjoy as much, will probably join some exercise groups to mix it up a bit, but ONLY if it doesn't interfere with spending time with DH. Which is kinda your complaint....... we got married BECAUSE we like to spend time together.

I guess I'm complaining because my friends pretty much gave up all their former hobbies, which me and them used to enjoy together. From "immature" ones like going drinking, to perfectly healthy ones like lifting weights. I guess I'm just not willing to give that up for anybody. It's like a perpetual, highly restrictive Lent. Hence, MGTOW.

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by MillennialUrbanist

I guess I'm complaining because my friends pretty much gave up all their former hobbies, which me and them used to enjoy together. From "immature" ones like going drinking, to perfectly healthy ones like lifting weights. I guess I'm just not willing to give that up for anybody. It's like a perpetual, highly restrictive Lent. Hence, MGTOW.

That's illogical.

It should be "hence, I choose other types of romantic relationships."

[MillennialUrbanist]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

It should be "hence, I choose other types of romantic relationships."

What other types are there? Are you referring to "types" like open relationships or polyamory?

[TabulaRasa]

Probably just ones where nobody forces anybody to give up their interests. You know...normal, healthy relationships.

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by MillennialUrbanist

What other types are there? Are you referring to "types" like open relationships or polyamory?

You would choose a relationship where both parties are active with their friends and their own hobbies, instead of the type your friends seem to prefer.