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Old 05-06-2017, 08:18 AM
 
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I have never bought or driven a bike, but when shopping for my new auto none of them had exhaust like you see on "show off" loud exhaust autos, usually driven by young attention-seeking me. One can only assume the autos were modified by their owners.

I find this behaviour so laughable, as if any woman would be attracted by a noisy car filled with obnoxious males, and emitting obnoxious noise.

It's the same behavior as wolves marking their territory, and defending it, usually by ritual displays in which the sub-dominant wolf steps down if he knows what's good for him. Men who drive these noisy autos are attention seeking, scent marking, dominance asserting in order to attract females. I am so amused because any woman of taste would be repelled by such behavior. It is interesting to note that humans adopted wolves into human clans, becoming man's first domesticated creatures. This natural alliance was fostered because of the similarity of human and wolf social structures. To this day, "Dog is man's best friend." (Cats were later adopted as pest control in larger human encampments, and animals such as cows for their utility such as milk, or chickens and pigs as food that does not require refrigeration!)

I don't rate men as potential partners based on such shallow behaviours such as what auto they drive, not unless it's a pile of garbage looking for a dust bin. (Those men need not apply.) There are such things as personality, education, grooming and kindness that to women transcend a man's election or choice to drive an attention-seeking auto. In fact attention-seeking itself is a turn-off. Attention seems to find real men without any obnoxious self-advertising necessary.
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Old 05-06-2017, 09:16 AM
 
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I have never bought or driven a bike, but when shopping for my new auto none of them had exhaust like you see on "show off" loud exhaust autos, usually driven by young attention-seeking me. One can only assume the autos were modified by their owners.

I find this behaviour so laughable, as if any woman would be attracted by a noisy car filled with obnoxious males, and emitting obnoxious noise.

It's the same behavior as wolves marking their territory, and defending it, usually by ritual displays in which the sub-dominant wolf steps down if he knows what's good for him. Men who drive these noisy autos are attention seeking, scent marking, dominance asserting in order to attract females. I am so amused because any woman of taste would be repelled by such behavior. It is interesting to note that humans adopted wolves into human clans, becoming man's first domesticated creatures. This natural alliance was fostered because of the similarity of human and wolf social structures. To this day, "Dog is man's best friend." (Cats were later adopted as pest control in larger human encampments, and animals such as cows for their utility such as milk, or chickens and pigs as food that does not require refrigeration!)

I don't rate men as potential partners based on such shallow behaviours such as what auto they drive, not unless it's a pile of garbage looking for a dust bin. (Those men need not apply.) There are such things as personality, education, grooming and kindness that to women transcend a man's election or choice to drive an attention-seeking auto. In fact attention-seeking itself is a turn-off. Attention seems to find real men without any obnoxious self-advertising necessary.
LOL another one putting too much thought into it...

Yes because its a magical "duck call" for women...

Wrong again.
Could care less if a woman is attracted or repelled by the exhaust note. I own the vehicle, I like something, I do it.

If she thinks so highly of herself that the vehicle or its exhaust note is meant to impress her, chances are she probably has half a dozen cats at home...

Still over thinking a simple concept that its ones personal property, and they can do whatever they wish to it.
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Old 05-06-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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Do the annoyingly overly loud exhausts come on bikes off the factory line like that? I always assumed that owners did special modifications to increase the loudness of their exhausts. If that is true, that right there says a lot about the owners "intent". Just wondering.
Those bikes you put new exhaust on. They are quiet from the factory.

But to make anything louder... Extremely louder...Raise its compression.

Can do this one of many ways.
Mill the head(s)
Install higher compression height pistons to come level with the blocks deck surface or slightly out of the hole (if the combustion chambers allow it) or mill the Deck.
Install flat top/domed pistons.

When you Mill heads and decks you mess with valve train geometry... So proper length pushrods are required.

Here in Florida aka Tropical America
You can run anything you want for an exhaust. And many do. Only ones who blat about it are north east snow birds that want peace and quiet. They want that, they can take themselves to the nursing home and be miserable there...
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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I have never bought or driven a bike, but when shopping for my new auto none of them had exhaust like you see on "show off" loud exhaust autos, usually driven by young attention-seeking me. One can only assume the autos were modified by their owners.

I find this behaviour so laughable, as if any woman would be attracted by a noisy car filled with obnoxious males, and emitting obnoxious noise.

It's the same behavior as wolves marking their territory, and defending it, usually by ritual displays in which the sub-dominant wolf steps down if he knows what's good for him. Men who drive these noisy autos are attention seeking, scent marking, dominance asserting in order to attract females. I am so amused because any woman of taste would be repelled by such behavior. It is interesting to note that humans adopted wolves into human clans, becoming man's first domesticated creatures. This natural alliance was fostered because of the similarity of human and wolf social structures. To this day, "Dog is man's best friend." (Cats were later adopted as pest control in larger human encampments, and animals such as cows for their utility such as milk, or chickens and pigs as food that does not require refrigeration!)

I don't rate men as potential partners based on such shallow behaviours such as what auto they drive, not unless it's a pile of garbage looking for a dust bin. (Those men need not apply.) There are such things as personality, education, grooming and kindness that to women transcend a man's election or choice to drive an attention-seeking auto. In fact attention-seeking itself is a turn-off. Attention seems to find real men without any obnoxious self-advertising necessary.
Think of a car/truck/suv Like a house...

Some people like a plain jane white with a dark contrasting color for shudders and shingles...
Other people like WILD colors. Like Bright Blues, Pink, YELLOW, look at victorian house in the north east for an example.
IF thats what the home owner likes. Thats what they do. Just because you live across the street or next door doesn't give you any right to mandate them to change to a color you like... or suits your taste...

Down here people seal coat their driveways all sorts of different colors... Some have bright colors, some have light colors, some have dark colors, Some have their initials painted ornately on the driveway, Some have pineapples some have dolphins etc... Plus the colors of the houses vary... I've seen neon colors on houses down here in Florida. Not my cup of tea, not something I personally would do... But its different. I can appreciate the difference of the appearance. Otherwise the neighborhood would be dull and boring if every house was white with brown/black shudders and shingles...
Some have pavers. Some are dull and all of the blocks are the same color. Some have various colors and pattern bricks. Like octagonal or round and square, or alternating square to long and wide rectangular to narrow and tall rectangular pattern. Some have poured concrete curbs around the edge of the drive way. Some have a contrasting color of blocks as the edge of the drive way... People do what they like.

Its no different than a hair style. I get mohawks from time to time. Don't do it for attention. Do it because I like it. Its different. Could care less what anyone else thinks. Could be like the rest of the dudes down here and have narrow lines shaved into my skull and tapered cuts leaving the top to look like a squirrel crapped on my head...

No different than clothing.
Down here everyone wears flip flops. Wont catch me in those miserable uncomfortable tripping devices.
When it dipped into the 50s I've gone to bars and night clubs in Jeans, Timberland boots and matching color shirt to the boots. Have dark green Tims. White leather tims have tan roll tops with red and black plaid on the inside of the tongues, have dark blue with white stitching to match a NY Yankees hat.
Haven't seen anyone else wearing tims down here unless they too were from the north east.
Their dress shirts are light and bright colors. Mine are dark or plaid.

My business suits are all pinstriped. Some are black with grey or white pin stripes, One is Dark Green with light green pinstripes. Another is a medium blue with navy blue pinstripes.
Theirs vary in all sorts of light color, but are just a solid color...

Some guys at the range shoot AKs. Some shoot ARs. Some shoot bolt actions. Some shoot M1 styled action rifles. Some shoot Lever actions... Some have breech action shot guns. Some have fancy semi auto tube or magazine fed shot guns. Some have bolt action shot guns. Most have pump action shotguns. Some have factory wood stocks. Some have polymer tactical stocks. Some have ornate engraved stocks.
Some like little belly blaster pistols. Some like 1911s and Desert Eagles. Some like Glocks. Some like Sigs. Some like FNs Some like HKs. Some are solid black. Some are stainless. Some are two town black and stainless. Some are blued. Some are Cerakoted. A rare few are Damascus steel. Some have Coco Bolo grips. Some have Pearl grips. Some have Mahogany grips. Some have rubber grips.

Boats... Mostly everyone down here has a center console 25+ feet long. Boring to me.
I had Sea Doo Jet boats and jet skis to raise hell on the hudson river and many of the lakes in upstate NY. Even had a Malibu ski boat. That was a prop boat. Didn't like the idea of props nor the cost to repair the out drives. Almost got a 18 footer built in the 70s with a 455 oldsmobile powering a Berkeley Jet pump. (I'd think jet driven boats would be more popular down here as a there is no propeller to harm the manatees or divers.) Some have Pontoon boats. Some have regular cuddy cruisers. Some have sail boats. Some have big twin diesel powered yachts. Some have air boats. Some have flat bottom fishing and duck hunting boats.

Its their money, their hobby, their item to modify however they like to make them happy.
Life Liberty Pursuit of Happiness Having the freedom to do as you please if it makes you happy and does not cause harm to others...
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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If she thinks so highly of herself that the vehicle or its exhaust note is meant to impress her, chances are she probably has half a dozen cats at home...

Still over thinking a simple concept that its ones personal property, and they can do whatever they wish to it.
So you have a loud exhaust system because you desire to add to the already overwhelming noise of the big city? Have you ever considered that noise is a form of pollution? (And also, that big city lights cause light pollution, not that my city has anything in that respect that it saves on the time necessary to count all the stars. What stars? Is the moon a star? Well... the sun is a star.

Please explain why loud exhaust is better than factory exhaust.

For the record I hate cats. Vile, venal, little selfish creatures.
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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Its their money, their hobby, their item to modify however they like to make them happy.
Life Liberty Pursuit of Happiness Having the freedom to do as you please if it makes you happy and does not cause harm to others...
So having loud, noisy, annoying cars makes men happy? I don't understand men then.

But I'll admit to changing hair styles. Two weeks and I'm already considering adding some color streaks! And yeah, I could use another closet. Isn't that what boyfriends are for? Leave clothes there so that I've scent marked their apartments so that other women know they are violating my territory?

I'm just kidding. The clothes, not the hair!
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Old 05-06-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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So you have a loud exhaust system so that you desire to add to the already overwhelming noise of the big city? Have you ever considered that noise is a form of pollution? (And also, that big city lights cause light pollution, not that my city has anything in that respect that it saves on the time necessary to count all the stars. What stars? Is the moon a star? Well... the sun is a star.

For the record I hate cats. Vile, venal, little selfish creatures.
I don't live in a city. Have no desire to. Cities absolutely are the worst areas anyone can live in, no freedom in a city. No places to hunt. No places to ride quads or dirt bikes. No places to go snowmobiling (well no places in florida to go snowmobiling either LOL) No places to shoot guns (unless you like indoor ranges) No places to throw parties with bonfires. Crowded. Congested. Dirty. Not my cup of tea.

The town I reside in calls itself a city, but is far far FAR from a city. Its a town. There are others who have loud exhaust. Some even have super loud stereo systems that are louder than my Harley or my truck...
Noise pollution... LOL no no... Noise is not pollution. Pollution is harmful to ones health/environment. Is a jack hammer doing your health any risk? Unless you are operating it without hearing protection yes. Is a loud big block or small block a risk? I suppose if you have your ear at the tail pipe sure...

I have the desire to hear an 8 cylinder symphony as I go wide open throttle. Always have. Always will. I bought it. I own it. I can do with it how ever I please. I live in a free state. Not a nanny socialist state like NY anymore...

But to assume anyone does it to Impress the opposite sex is a bit full of themselves...
How would you know unless you asked why they did it? No offense, don't flatter yourself...

I lived up in the sticks of upstate NY. Was great until all the cityiots migrated north and ruined the area...

Eventually I'll be out of this town and in an area where there's nothing but horse and cattle ranches and citrus groves with plenty of property to do as I wish. May have a huge back stop in the back yard to Shoot rifles and pistols from my back porch.

Get bored and shoot mortars and bottle rockets at junk appliances pack M80s and fire crackers in ant hills or barrels.
Have enough property to put a couple jumps and whoops sections in for my quads and dirt bikes.
Maybe even enough to put a paved strip to do donuts and burnouts on without worry of being cited by johnny law...

I do what I want. When I want. How I want. Don't care what others think. I exist to make myself happy. Not please an entire populace or to conform to their ideology and their boring dull lives... I live and let live. Not stomp my feet and demand someone change to please me... Although I do yell at that rice burner that flies up and down the street to put a muffler on it. Hate that high pitched anemic 4 cylinder fury... But I don't go to the dudes house and tell him he's in violation of penal codes ____ ____ ____ and report him to the police... Just because I don't like it.

I don't have to like it. Its not my car. I didn't buy it. I don't have to drive it... I don't have to listen to it continuously for hours on end... It goes zipping by for all of 15/20 seconds every other day. Big deal. Not the end of the world. So what I heard something annoying... Do I let it ruin my day? Nope. I hear sport bikes bouncing off the rev limiter. Big deal. So what. Not the end of the world.
I hear harleys go wide open I smile. I hear that straight piped challenger floor it when he goes by I smile. I open the sliding back glass on my truck and hear that 8 cylinder symphony as I floor it. I smile. And over passes and tunnels Oh yea. Every window down. Gas pedal on the floor board. I like it.

I could live quite contently next door to a drag strip or stock car track, or a dirt bike track...

And I mostly refuse to grow up. Growing up means getting old. And getting old sucks. I Stay active. I Raise hell. I Have fun. I Only take money seriously. Everything else can be made into a joke. Life is too short to be miserable or worry about what so and so is doing if it has no direct effect on my wallet, my health, my life, my property/possessions, or family/friends. Unfortunately nobody else seems to chose to live that way without pushing their beliefs and their will onto others...

Far greater things to worry about than some hick like me who likes straight piped pickups and glasspack mufflers, and Loud Harleys/Ducatis...

Loud Pipes Do Save Lives.
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Old 05-06-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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So having loud, noisy, annoying cars makes men happy? I don't understand men then.

But I'll admit to changing hair styles. Two weeks and I'm already considering adding some color streaks! And yeah, I could use another closet. Isn't that what boyfriends are for? Leave clothes there so that I've scent marked their apartments so that other women know they are violating my territory?

I'm just kidding. The clothes, not the hair!
We are simple creatures. I am at least.
If you can cook.
If you like raising hell.
Like to throw back a couple drinks on the weekend.
We'll get along just fine.

Loud V8s Muscle Cars, Hot rods, pickup trucks. Makes me happy.
Shooting guns. Makes me happy.
Building engines. Makes me happy.
Racing Stock Cars. Makes me happy.
Ripping around on Dirt Bikes and quads. Makes me happy.
Anything mechanical. Makes me happy.
Shooting off fire works and blowing stuff up. Makes me happy.
Hunting deer-Venison Makes me happy.
Playing football (not watching it cant stand the over paid wusses that play pro ball) Makes me happy.
Attending Krav Maga and Jiu Jitsu classes Makes me happy.
Living in a Free State REALLY makes me happy.
Snow boarding and snowmobiling used to make me extremely happy.
And this Zaxbys Chicken... OMG. That really makes me happy. Something they never had in NY.
Sitting on the beach. Drinking Rum Runners or beer. Thats relaxation. That makes me happy.
Jumping waves on a jetski that makes me happy.
Driving over 100mph makes me happy.
Taking corners at high speed makes me happy.
(adrenaline junkie)
I see myself If I manage to live that long, be 60 years old still tearing it up. Not sitting at home rotting away saying Gee... I wish I did ____ or could have done ____.
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Old 05-06-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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Sentence fragments. Make NYrefugee87 happy.

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Old 05-08-2017, 06:50 AM
 
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Sentence fragments. Make NYrefugee87 happy.

Well, he does seem to have a few redeeming factors, maybe not grammar though.

Can I cook? Yes, of course I can. Can you do housework, NYrefugee? More importantly: will you?
Yeah, I 'toss back' a few, but not beers. Maybe a Margarita if the barkeep has a heavy hand!
And I sip, I don't toss. Not unless somebody needs a face full of my cocktail!
It takes the right sort of man to know when and what he can grab!
I've always wanted to take firearms training but the laws are a bit complicated.
I'm too busy studying my job to have time to understand all the gun laws.
I need a mentor. I need a 10mm. I need a firing range. I need a professional instructor.
I need a license! Awk! I'm already studying for my professional license! Hard!
Car stuff? They have shops for that, don't they? Besides I don't want to break my nails.
Anything mechanical? Isn't that what men are for? But keep your hands off my PC!
Eating dead venison? Can you teach me how to shoot it? I'll happily eat what I kill!
Do you have any good recipes for Bambi? Or for that matter, for Thumper?
Carving up that dead deer? Enjoy yourself. I'll go find the car...
And no, I don't need directions. They have GPS for that.
Football? Don't they have dogs for chasing balls? No thanks, I'll go watch a "chick flick."
I'm a Krav Maga novice. I keep missing the classes due to conflicts with work and study.
You could say I know a bit about snow. (Mostly back home.) They can keep it.
Sitting on the beach? Not here where I live. Or not for long... Not if its cold...
You may have noticed that Pacific coastal water comes from Alaska!
Driving over 100 Kmh makes me happy. Over 100 mph scares me!
Okay I have a little zippy car, sporty job. Curves are okay. Do you like curves?
What is Zaxby's Chicken? Visit QC or wherever and go try poutine. Ecccchhhh!!!
At least Americans got one thing right! But do you import your fries from France?
Do they call them French fries in France? No, they call them pommes frites. FYI
I'll take mine without the curds and and gravy, thank you. Ketchup, please?

But all that noisy stuff, the only noise I want to hear is my music.

I hope you didn't mind my parody of your style, NYrefugee!
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