Misogynists Who Wonder Why No Woman Wants to be with Them (girls, problems)

[Mikala43]

To me there are two types of people.

Those, who, when they have repeated problems in an area (relationships, employment, friends, etc.) who blame everyone BUT themselves (opposite gender, greedy corporations, etc.).

and

Those, who have the same kind of problems, look to themselves and learn how to change their own actions and / or thinking.


I have little toleration for the first, and respect for the second.

[49ersfan27]

Originally Posted by Stockyman

IMO women seem to be more upset with guys lashing out about women than actual misogynists. Of course it's easier to be upset with men who complain and rant online because you can read it and they are expressing it.

The true misogynist can't be bothered to read forums. Instead he is too busy tricking women into having sex with no relationship in sight.

One actually commits the crime and gets away with it. The other complains and gets shamed for being a misogynist.

Actual misogynists don't care what anyone thinks. They can't be bullied, feel shame, or negotiated with. To quote Alfred in the Dark Knight, "Some men just want to watch the world burn."

[Vacanegro]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

To me there are two types of people.

Those, who, when they have repeated problems in an area (relationships, employment, friends, etc.) who blame everyone BUT themselves (opposite gender, greedy corporations, etc.).

and

Those, who have the same kind of problems, look to themselves and learn how to change their own actions and / or thinking.


I have little toleration for the first, and respect for the second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ882QYzr-M

[RbccL]

Does anyone ever admit to being a mysogynist? I don't think they see themselves as that, they just think women are "lesser" and anyone who disagrees is wrong or lying.

Kind of like a mental illness, one can't really be talked out of it.

[The Dissenter]

Originally Posted by Xpat

Something you see here a lot on CD and in life: the man who does not like or respect women but desperately wants one in his life and wonders why self-respecting women don't want to be with him.

How and why does this happen? How can these guys realize that their own worldview is the reason they are alone. It could be a chicken or the egg thing; a bad experience soured them on women in general...but that seems rare.

And yes, this same thing goes both ways. We all know women who don't like or respect men but want a man in their life.

Thoughts?

I'm sure some here will consider me a misogynist which I won't answer to. An ahole and misanthropic, I'll probably answer to that.

I would like to say I'm very self-aware that my overall attitude towards people will repel people especially women. I've accepted that as a consequence for a choice I'm making. I've resigned myself to the fact I'm never going to be a people person and I'm fine with that.

My dad was a pretty misogynistic person (also an ahole, surprise) and my mother many times almost proved his points with the arguments her and I got into frequently. Never seeing my parents in healthy relationships definitely shaped my outlook to prove another poster's point.

[CarnivalGal]

Originally Posted by The Dissenter

I'm sure some here will consider me a misogynist which I won't answer to. An ahole and misanthropic, I'll probably answer to that.

I would like to say I'm very self-aware that my overall attitude towards people will repel people especially women. I've accepted that as a consequence for a choice I'm making. I've resigned myself to the fact I'm never going to be a people person and I'm fine with that.

My dad was a pretty misogynistic person (also an ahole, surprise) and my mother many times almost proved his points with the arguments her and I got into frequently. Never seeing my parents in healthy relationships definitely shaped my outlook to prove another poster's point.

Have you addressed any of this with a professional? Just curious because it seems like an awfully unhappy way to live.

[steiconi]

if a man who hates women is a misogynist, would a woman who hates men be a misterogynist?
And how would the kiddy show host feel about that?

[dazzleman]

Originally Posted by Xpat

Something you see here a lot on CD and in life: the man who does not like or respect women but desperately wants one in his life and wonders why self-respecting women don't want to be with him.

How and why does this happen? How can these guys realize that their own worldview is the reason they are alone. It could be a chicken or the egg thing; a bad experience soured them on women in general...but that seems rare.

And yes, this same thing goes both ways. We all know women who don't like or respect men but want a man in their life.

Thoughts?

It's a cycle. This usually involves people who are socially awkward and unsuccessful at dating or making friends. Bitterness sets in and they begin to hate the people who are rejecting them, even though they still want romantic interests or friends in their life.

I think this issue will always be with us, unfortunately.

[elnrgby]

Originally Posted by cedarite

One of the biggest relationship roadblocks that I see is that people tend to generalize "all women are like this" or "all men are like this" when everyone is an individual. It leads to ascribing motivations that may not even be there based on the stereotype rather than the reality of the individual. "All women lie, all women want bad boys/ all men just want sex/ all men are players".... any of that sort of set-in-stone pattern of assessment has a likelihood of torpedoing chances for finding a successful relationship.

Few things are a bigger turn off than someone acting like you're an interchangeable bio-unit with a set of habits, thinking and motivations that aren't your own rather than the individual person you actually are.

All people tend to be interested in physically attractive potential partners. I think that can be generalized, and it always comes first between a man and a woman (or between same gender people in case of gays). People of both genders will make every kind of adjustment and bend over backwards for each other if there is a major and enduring mutual physical attraction. We all know that - why do all the advice-giving sources and psychology resources not simply acknowledge that? If there is physical attraction, pretty much everyone will try their best to work out all other problems. If one or both sides aren't (or aren't any longer) attracted, then just forget it, it has no chance of working out at all.

[rodentraiser]

Originally Posted by EastBoundandDownChick

For me as a woman, I think it's something that's just naturally on the radar. Especially as we get older. A lot of men grew up with entitlement issues, like because their dad and granddad had housewives they automatically deserve one too. The difference is these men provided and the women strictly stayed home, divorce was taboo, and the women were not truly liberated or with real options yet.

Just like life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness are enshrined in the Constitution these men believed they deserved their own Donna Reed as well (regardless of their own looks, nature, or socioeconomic standing). The truth is, that's not reality. And it's not the way most women strive to be nowadays, seeing that we have options we simply never were allowed to have before.

If a man wants to get a mail-order foreign bride in the hopes of having a traditional woman, maybe that's his best bet if he's not a real Alpha. Real men don't have that issue because they can provide. Me personally, I'm in a different category because I'm older and not looking to start a family or be dependent on someone else. I believe these men absolutely can still find someone, the problem is their expectations aren't realistic and they aren't aiming in the same ballpark they fail to admit they're in.

Hmmm...interesting point. I think, though, we have to be careful about the labeling. Not every man who wants a traditional wife is a misogynist. He may hate independent women and he might be labeled a misogynist, but he doesn't hate all women, whereas a misogynist actually does, and not just the independent ones.