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Old 03-31-2018, 11:06 PM
 
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around a library having an open mic night. When did they turn into a performance venue? Isn't it distracting to the people using it for, you know, library stuff?

 
Old 03-31-2018, 11:08 PM
 
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You are welcome. I'm also an amateur musician, never wanted to be paid, just did it for the enjoyment. I've performed in church, at old age homes and hospitals, at public ceremonies, at benefits and cocktail parties, and once at Brooklyn College at a Christmas show. I'm 71 and it's been about 15 years since I performed in public, but my musical outlet for the past 5 years or so is to record music videos and put them on youtube. Sometimes I record them of myself singing and playing, mostly a friend records their parts and we combine the tracks in editing. There's not a lot of recognition but some family and friends see them and I've gotten to be a better player and there's a feeling of satisfaction in learning, performing, recording and editing a song and posting for others to see. My wife thinks they are terrible but my friend and I enjoy making them, and we usually can count on a few facebook likes.
Link please?
 
Old 04-01-2018, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Well sure I can have arrogant moments, when I think I am the best. Probably everyone who tries to do some kind of creative work has moments like that. But I try to be aware of it, and not let me ego run my life. That's why I always remind myself to respect others, and to remember I am not better than they are, just different. I very strongly believe in respecting others, as much as possible. Some people do make it hard to respect them though.

If I accuse Ned of being an a-hole, he would just get defensive and not listen. I would probably try to explain how I felt that night. I went all the way there, had practiced a lot, was looking forward to performing. And then they seemed completely uninterested in hearing me.

Some people here said I should have been assertive and asked them to let me play. But I felt that if they weren't interested, they wouldn't really listen anyway.

And, as I have said, this does not normally happen. There are rules that are followed at open mics, and at some jam sessions. People take turns and listen politely while others have their turn. Of course, not everyone follows the rules all the time, but in general they do. There is always someone in charge who tries to keep things organized and fair.
Well, I don't see what the commotion is about here, if everyone will kindly stop judging you and just allow you to be you without trying to change you they might find their own mood improves.

If someone tells me how I should be its a sure sign they are talking about themself.

Its better to understand than to be understood
 
Old 04-01-2018, 03:18 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Link please?
Not too hard to find using the search function
Bruce and Bob rockin out youtube.

https://youtu.be/DLeM7LeVst4
 
Old 04-01-2018, 04:21 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I doubt you know what virtually all psychiatrists do.

And it depends on what you mean by psychotherapy.

Hardly anyone thinks that serious mental illness can be cured just by talking. Especially since no one knows what causes mental illness.

The goal is usually just to suppress symptoms.

People who are not mentally ill and just have normal problems they want to talk about don't usually go to psychiatrists. There is no reason to, unless you have a serious mental illness and want the symptoms suppressed with drugs.

This is all well known SuzyQ, so I don't know why you don't know it, or why you want to argue about it.

Psychiatrists don't force drugs down patients throats, but they are likely to encourage them to take drugs, since that is the main thing they can do to help anyone.
Frankly, I am beginning to have questions about your education in psychology. Did you study clinical psychology at all? You certainly do not have much understanding of what a psychiatrist does.

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-...-is-psychiatry

"Psychiatrists use a variety of treatments – including various forms of psychotherapy, medications, psychosocial interventions and other treatments (such as electroconvulsive therapy or ECT), depending on the needs of each patient."

"Psychotherapy, sometimes called talk therapy, is a treatment that involves a talking relationship between a therapist and patient. It can be used to treat a broad variety of mental disorders and emotional difficulties. The goal of psychotherapy is to eliminate or control disabling or troubling symptoms so the patient can function better. Depending on the extent of the problem, treatment may take just a few sessions over a week or two or may take many sessions over a period of years. Psychotherapy can be done individually, as a couple, with a family, or in a group."

Certainly there are people who just want someone to talk to about the trials and tribulations of everyday life. Perhaps they choose a psychologist or master's level counselor to see. However, they do have the option of seeing a psychiatrist. If a medication is not indicated there would be no reason to prescribe one. Not everyone who sees a psychiatrist walks out with a prescription.
 
Old 04-01-2018, 06:14 AM
 
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Frankly, I am beginning to have questions about your education in psychology. Did you study clinical psychology at all? You certainly do not have much understanding of what a psychiatrist does.

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-...-is-psychiatry

"Psychiatrists use a variety of treatments – including various forms of psychotherapy, medications, psychosocial interventions and other treatments (such as electroconvulsive therapy or ECT), depending on the needs of each patient."

"Psychotherapy, sometimes called talk therapy, is a treatment that involves a talking relationship between a therapist and patient. It can be used to treat a broad variety of mental disorders and emotional difficulties. The goal of psychotherapy is to eliminate or control disabling or troubling symptoms so the patient can function better. Depending on the extent of the problem, treatment may take just a few sessions over a week or two or may take many sessions over a period of years. Psychotherapy can be done individually, as a couple, with a family, or in a group."

Certainly there are people who just want someone to talk to about the trials and tribulations of everyday life. Perhaps they choose a psychologist or master's level counselor to see. However, they do have the option of seeing a psychiatrist. If a medication is not indicated there would be no reason to prescribe one. Not everyone who sees a psychiatrist walks out with a prescription.
I know what psychotherapy is. You just want to argue and try to prove you know more than I do about this. You don't.

What I said was that, in general, it would not make sense to pay a psychiatrist if you don't need medical treatments like drugs. Maybe someone would, but they probably would not.

Oh, and yes, it could be ECT! Probably not, but it could be. Anything you can say to contradict what I said.

People who are ignorant about the whole subject don't know the difference between a psychiatrist and a clinical psychologist, or non-PhD clinical counselors.
 
Old 04-01-2018, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I know what psychotherapy is. You just want to argue and try to prove you know more than I do about this. You don't.

What I said was that, in general, it would not make sense to pay a psychiatrist if you don't need medical treatments like drugs. Maybe someone would, but they probably would not.

Oh, and yes, it could be ECT! Probably not, but it could be. Anything you can say to contradict what I said.

People who are ignorant about the whole subject don't know the difference between a psychiatrist and a clinical psychologist, or non-PhD clinical counselors.
You do not believe what the American Psychiatric Association says about the services provided by psychiatrists?
 
Old 04-01-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around a library having an open mic night. When did they turn into a performance venue? Isn't it distracting to the people using it for, you know, library stuff?
Most libraries today have multiple rooms, multiple floors now and a variety of activities. I took a yoga class in my library, but it wasn't on the floor with the books. It's more like a community center that includes a large library.
 
Old 04-01-2018, 09:44 AM
 
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You do not believe what the American Psychiatric Association says about the services provided by psychiatrists?
He is right, most psychiatrists diagnose mental illness and dole out meds and have very limited psychotherapy. Most people go to psychiatrists for meds and to a psychologist for talk therapy. I don't think most insurances would even pay for continued psychotherapy with a psychiatrist as the costs would be much higher (they are in the category of medical specialists like an orthopedist in terms of insurance billing category and charges). It is insurance that drives medical care in this country, and they're the reason psychiatrists have been moved out of therapy over the decades.

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Old 04-01-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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Psychologist or psychiatrist -- which should I see? - CNN.com

"psychiatrists tend to focus on diagnosing various mental disorders and then treating them with medications or other types of medical interventions. Psychologists use the same diagnostic system but usually treat patients with psychotherapy"


https://www.webmd.com/depression/fin...or-therapist#1

"Psychiatrists are doctors who can prescribe antidepressants and other medications and sometimes also offer therapy. They are, though, often more expensive than non-MDs."
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