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Btw, the only reason I still eat poultry is because sometimes my body TELLS me it needs that protein - and when your body is speaking, it’s usually smart to listen. I’m sorry, but humans simply cannot get the same nourishment from eating only PLANTS. That’s a discussion best saved for the health or food forum, though, so maybe you should post about it there instead.
So because someone is kinder to pets than people it's OK to be cruel to animals? You can't be serious.
Of course not. It's sad, but that could be a cause. Two wrongs definitely don't make a right. But perhaps some of the so-called "animal" lovers need to take some of the responsibility for these tragedies.
Of course not. It's sad, but that could be a cause. Two wrongs definitely don't make a right. But perhaps some of the so-called "animal" lovers need to take some of the responsibility for these tragedies.
I don't know why, but this is not the first time you have commented and I've struggled to understand what you're trying to say.
Are you saying that animal lovers are somehow to blame for those who are cruel to animals? What, for not loving people enough? Are you saying those people who are cruel to animals were not loved enough themselves or are you indicating that animal haters exist to balance out the universe?
I don't know why, but this is not the first time you have commented and I've struggled to understand what you're trying to say.
Are you saying that animal lovers are somehow to blame for those who are cruel to animals? What, for not loving people enough? Are you saying those people who are cruel to animals were not loved enough themselves or are you indicating that animal haters exist to balance out the universe?
I just...sorry man...I don't get it.
I think there is something wrong when many people in our society show more love and general regard for their pets than for humans who are suffering. It's not a difficult concept. I just think our society is sick in many ways. Some people spend tons of money on their animals, while they let people in their own communities starve to death.
Not sure what the balance sheet on this is in Ozzy's mind, either. I do know if we start debating here the thread might be closed or moved if it veers too far from psychology. I started a thread somewhat on this topic on the Veg forum:
If that one turns into a debate, however, it may be moved or closed, also. It's a very important topic, I think, however, and it angers a lot of people! Sometimes the very people who are angry, initially, are the ones who change their minds, and not just change their diets but become activists. We need more loving, ethical people. And the animals need us, too.
I just tried to answer the question as accurately as I could assess it. These kinds of sad things are the result of society, in my opinion. I suppose that if everyone could grow up in some kind of ideal small town in Latin America or something, there would be less mental illness. But unfortunately that is not the world we live in.
I just tried to answer the question as accurately as I could assess it. These kinds of sad things are the result of society, in my opinion. I suppose that if everyone could grow up in some kind of ideal small town in Latin America or something, there would be less mental illness. But unfortunately that is not the world we live in.
I guess I still don't follow you. Being kind to one subset of living things does not subtract from the opportunity of being kind to another subset; there isn't a limited amount of kindness to go around, in other words.
To put it another way, being kind to animals doesn't prevent one from being kind to humans. If some humans are more kind to their pets than to other humans, that says something about those particular humans, but doesn't imply that if one is less kind to animals they might then be more kind to humans. You can be kind to both, or unkind to both.
Because they're just pathetic people, I guess. How you can show anything but kindness and caring to an innocent, small creature, I don't really understand. I'm a pretty straight-forward, sometimes aggressive guy, if I have to be, I'm a dominant type of personality, but if you see me with my cats, they get spoiled and treated like princesses. Because they're innocent creatures, they don't deserve any hostility. People, on the other hand, sometimes have to be put in their place :P
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