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I would just treat him as a mental patient with physical disabilities. Don't expect anything from him - AND don't take any abuse. Stay away, as much as is possible.
Your fiancee does seem to have a surprisingly healthy approach to her family dysfunction. If you really love your fiancee and see a long future with her, then you two should have a talk and make a pre-marriage pact that you two are going to be a team.
Together you will be like a fortress against all the "crazy" around you.
You will support each other when other family members make unreasonable demands on you.
I do not think you should pursue ANY relationship with this man beyond anything cordial and surface. I think you should support your fiancee's tendency to keep her dad at arm's length, and I think you should encourage her to explain to her mom that she is going to reinforce those emotional boundaries with her dad. She needs to let her mom know gently that she doesn't want her continued pressure to keep in touch with her dad.
Her parents have made their own choices. Now they need to back off and let their children make their own decisions about who they want in their own lives.
^^^ This TOTALLY. Don't get sucked in to their dysfunction and make your own choices together. Maybe also move away if necessary, especially if you plan to start a family.
GOOD! By this age your right to be independent shouldn't be challenged by any sane person who truly has your best interests at heart. Look after yourselves and your own future family. Have a HAPPY MARRIAGE!!
She does a great job at boundaries and maintaining them, though she often feels she has to cross them when her mother begs her to call her father, she gives in and is left in tears after the call each time
Her mother's an enabler to the step dad's abuse of her daughter, and herself.
All parties need to set higher standards and stop putting up with him.
Listen here guy, When you get married, you and your lady and the offspring are #1, everyone else, including her parents can get in line and take a number.
As for dad, it is obvious Mom is trying to hold it all together. Why would she not, it is her family right? Keeping cordial is ok and all, but it does not mean Dad can step all over his daughter anymore. The daughter is yours now. Set your foot down, before the wedding. Set terms now with your fiance, and go into couples counseling before you make another "life "decision.
You and your lady , are forming your own family, it is your business venture with her. No one should be telling you guys what to do, nor pulling a guilt trip. Adults do not need to behave this way. From experience, "adult up" for both of you and do not fall for the manipulation. Ultimately your fiance will make her own decisions, even if it means being without you. But hopefully she is brave enough, and smart enough to fix her relationship with her parents.
GOOD! By this age your right to be independent shouldn't be challenged by any sane person who truly has your best interests at heart. Look after yourselves and your own future family. Have a HAPPY MARRIAGE!!
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