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Old 06-01-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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There's an easy solution to all this.

Women: please dress however you like.

Men: please look at whatever you like.

Everybody's happy except entitled busy-bodies who need to tell other people what do do.



I agree with this, however, staring at a person's outfit can be rude. However, I find it funny that people choose to wear "outlandish" outfits, yet complain when people look/stare. People don't get to decide what people wear nor people don't get to decide if someone looks/stares at an attractive person. Yet, this is ANOTHER rhetoric of men vs women. It's such a simple concept, yet, people like to make it complicated and ***** about **** that doesn't even matter. SMH.

 
Old 06-01-2018, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I agree with this, however, staring at a person's outfit can be rude. However, I find it funny that people choose to wear "outlandish" outfits, yet complain when people look/stare. People don't get to decide what people wear nor people don't get to decide if someone looks/stares at an attractive person. Yet, this is ANOTHER rhetoric of men vs women. It's such a simple concept, yet, people like to make it complicated and ***** about **** that doesn't even matter. SMH.
I don't know. I can imagine a scenario in which a normal guy would not rudely stare at a MAN who was looking "outlandish" IF that man looked scary, or big, who might respond with violence and could beat you up.

That regular guy could be real polite if he thought he'd get his butt kicked, you know?

I'm not sure that fear of repercussions in the form of physical harm, should really be necessary to incite a person to behave nicely. Kind of makes one a bit of a bully if they do it just because they feel that there's "nothing you can do about it." A bit.

Obviously it's different if you feel like you can look or stare and they won't necessarily notice that you're doing so. I'm talking about the kind of staring that someone will be aware of, and maybe uncomfortable about.

And I think that is a huge part of why people complain about things like this. There can be a point where it feels like someone is taking advantage of a power differential.
 
Old 06-01-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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I agree with this, however, staring at a person's outfit can be rude. However, I find it funny that people choose to wear "outlandish" outfits, yet complain when people look/stare. People don't get to decide what people wear nor people don't get to decide if someone looks/stares at an attractive person. Yet, this is ANOTHER rhetoric of men vs women. It's such a simple concept, yet, people like to make it complicated and ***** about **** that doesn't even matter. SMH.
They want to have their cake and eat it too. That's what third-wave feminism is all about.
 
Old 06-01-2018, 03:58 PM
 
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They want to have their cake and eat it too. That's what third-wave feminism is all about.
She’s having her cake by simply wearing yoga pants and a T-shirt?
 
Old 06-01-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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She's eating her cake by demanding special treatment.
 
Old 06-01-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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She's having her cake by demanding special treatment.
What special treatment? The woman in the OP did not even know that OP glanced at her. Let alone demand anything. Everyone on this thread, every woman on this thread has said it’s fine to look but it’s rude to stare or to leer. It is not demanding special treatment to expect normal civilized people not to be overtly rude. Especially when it’s an outfit that is very common place in today’s society.
 
Old 06-01-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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She's having her cake by demanding special treatment.

Um....... she demanded nothing. Nada. Zilch.
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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Ok, lemme re-phrase.

Women in this thread who think they can tell people what they may or may not look at are demanding special treatment.

If I were to go around wearing yoga-pants, I guarantee I would get some stares and comments. I don't really want that, so I don't wear yoga pants in public.
 
Old 06-01-2018, 04:24 PM
 
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I don't know. I can imagine a scenario in which a normal guy would not rudely stare at a MAN who was looking "outlandish" IF that man looked scary, or big, who might respond with violence and could beat you up.

That regular guy could be real polite if he thought he'd get his butt kicked, you know?
A woman can be sexy and intimidating at the same time with tactical yoga pants.

 
Old 06-01-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The question is, why does a woman dress so provocatively if not to be stared at?

n.
My issue is with men making how women dress all about them (the men).

She can dress however and it is not about you. So to her "provocatively" may not be part of the equation.

However, while it is considered bad manners for anyone to stare at anyone, I maintain that once you set foot out in public, you have zero right telling people where to look or not to look at you.

So if a guy wants to look at a woman, I have zero issue with it.
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