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Suppose you did something like that. Are you OK with being tarnished for the rest of your life?
The man does good work -- why destroy him over one mistake?
One mistake that was filmed. Someone who does something like that has likely been doing it for awhile. Off camera, no doubt. I would bet it is part of a pattern. I highly doubt he was suddenly overcome by Ariana and just couldn't help himself.
Suppose you did something like that. Are you OK with being tarnished for the rest of your life?
The man does good work -- why destroy him over one mistake?
I never said he didn’t apologize. I want him to RESIGN.
I never sexually assaulted anyone as a middle aged married man, so no, I can’t “suppose” I would ever sexually assault an international celebrity on tv while telling a Taco Bell joke in church.
The man gropes one of the most famous women on earth. He’s lucky she doesn’t sue him and make him register as a sex offender, she has the money to do it.
Can he grope your mother, what about your spouse, sister, and aunt? He’s tall!
Well, he did a couple of dumb things. First of all, she is very famous and gifted, has a gorgeous voice, and he thought her name was an item from the Taco Bell menu? And secondly, she's young and beautiful, and he should have kept his hands off her.
She took it graciously, but he was out of line. Honoring Aretha Franklin was more important than causing a fuss, but he was inappropriate. It made me uncomfortable; no telling how it made her feel.
I don't do well with teasing. You can say it was a harmless joke, but teasing is always, and always, an attempt to put someone down, put them in their place, or elevate yourself above the person, however disguised. I don't like it. And it's not innocent.
Excellent post.
I don't do well with teasing either. Your observation is correct - teasing always seeks to ridicule and to put someone else down, while the "teaser" gets off the hook. If the person being teased responds with anything other than laughter, they are seen frequently as "a spoiled sport" or someone who cannot "take a joke".
It has a very dark motive, and it is never innocent.
No he does not have any business being a pastor or bishop, he is the epitome of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Originally Posted by blisterpeanuts
He did apologize. Do you not accept his apology?
Suppose you did something like that. Are you OK with being tarnished for the rest of your life?
The man does good work -- why destroy him over one mistake?
Yes he does do good work but no one can say for sure that this is his "one mistake" and honestly, I have my doubts precisely because he does do good things for people in Detroit and I suspect elsewhere as well. I hope I am wrong but I don't think so. That's how predators behave, they do many great things and good deeds so that they appear beyond reproach. Eventually there may be others who are not indebted to his "good deeds" and may come forward themselves, maybe not, maybe it will take years...or not at all.
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Originally Posted by VTsnowbird
One mistake that was filmed. Someone who does something like that has likely been doing it for awhile. Off camera, no doubt. I would bet it is part of a pattern. I highly doubt he was suddenly overcome by Ariana and just couldn't help himself.
I agree VT. One mistake? Highly unlikely. A man of his stature and illustrious public persona does not become that type of man at his age, I do not believe it for one minute. This was not his "first rodeo".
Apologies to the naysayers but I too have had personal experience with men who are well respected by their families, neighbors, community and co-workers and that in no way equals that they are not capable of being sexual predators, no way.
I was not an entertainer, didn't dress inappropriately, didn't dance in front of them, didn't "ask for it", nor any other myriad behavior women are blamed for as acting in an enticing manner. No, I was a 14 year old babysitter whose mother could not, for the life of her imagine why I would quit that particular family, she thought the world of them / him. He would insist on walking me home at night and as I would go up the stairs he would run his hand up between my legs...all the way to heaven. If my mother didn't believe me, well then, who would?
I realize and I know, too much information and it does not please me in sharing it. But if it opens only one set of eyes, then maybe it's worth it, because I am still ashamed of it.
Every woman I know has had that Ariana Grande moment
You walk away — I walk away — feeling small and dirty and alone.
From everything I read, she rendered a beautiful and respectful tribute to Aretha. More so than the pastor, actually, who used his platform for politics.
.......and, from reports, Aretha's family was very unhappy about it.
The pastor failed on every level, extremely out of touch, time for him to retire.
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