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As you say, that's an entirely different topic and has little in common with sexual violence.
But the OP is about women being sexual predators. A woman can certainly exhibit inappropriate sexual behavior and prey on men, counting on the fact that many men will not report her to HR or to law enforcement. It's toxic behavior.
But the OP is about women being sexual predators. A woman can certainly exhibit inappropriate sexual behavior and prey on men, counting on the fact that many men will not report her to HR or to law enforcement. It's toxic behavior.
What he was describing is inappropriate and perhaps offensive and toxic, but not criminal.
Come to think of it again, have you heard of a woman groping a man?
I was at a bar many years ago with some friends and a younger woman walked up and proceeded to grab the crotch everyone in our group. She went home with the one with the "most". It certainly wasn't reported.
As you say, that's an entirely different topic and has little in common with sexual violence.
Who says a sexual predator has to be violent? Coercion is as much a part of the equation as anything--and more commonplace. After all, the very large majority of sexual harassment complaints have nothing to do with rape. They have a great deal more to do with unwanted advances or the mismatch of power.
Let's say I worked in a large corporation and took a fancy to a person of lesser rank in my department. If I asked her out a couple of times and she declined, she would be well within her rights to report me to HR. If, as in the example I cited earlier in my own career, a man treated his vendor in the same way, it would be blatant harassment. So help me understand why you're moving the goalposts based on the gender doing the harassment.
Who says a sexual predator has to be violent? Coercion is as much a part of the equation as anything--and more commonplace. After all, the very large majority of sexual harassment complaints have nothing to do with rape. They have a great deal more to do with unwanted advances or the mismatch of power.
You're right, coercion counts too because then you are misusing your power or authority. But flirting or rubbing your hand seductively isn't violence or coercion. Its inappropriate in the context of conducting business. Coercion would be saying "you aren't getting this contract if you don't have sex with me" or making sexual advances on someone too young or inexperienced to know how to protect themselves.
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Let's say I worked in a large corporation and took a fancy to a person of lesser rank in my department. If I asked her out a couple of times and she declined, she would be well within her rights to report me to HR.
Yes if you've made her uncomfortable by doing so. That's inappropriate. Its not sexual deviance or predation unless you make a habit of it with many of the young women of lesser rank, and it wouldn't be sexual harassment unless you continued doing it after being asked to stop.
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If, as in the example I cited earlier in my own career, a man treated his vendor in the same way, it would be blatant harassment.
No it wouldn't, unless you told her to stop and she continued anyway.
I can think of hundreds of incidents as a woman! Yes client wanted to go out to dinner, yes boss told me to go, no I would’t -I had a boyfriend I said-, I was told I was “acting arrogant, because who said the client wanted to be my boyfriend?!?” Gaslighting, “no one did anything inappropriate” with the brushing, rubbing, staring, sexual innuendo. Dirty pictures, dirty jokes. Pulling over in a park in case I wanted to make out with my married boss? Don’t call anyone on it as a woman, or you’re a reactionary, overreacting, conceited. Every month, every year of my life.
Have I dwelled on it? Cried out unfair favoritism? No. Did I call the police? No.
Have I jumped out of a (slow) moving car, pushed someone down the steps, ran away out a back door, into a dark alley, not been invited to golf unless I agree to wear shorts and caddy, commiserated repeatedly with other women working or not? Changed departments, changed jobs... YES! Has a man said: “yeah it sucks to be a woman, nothing like that happens to me, maybe one time”, but not as a way of life, for a lifetime. The comparison, even suggesting it’s equal and then women are these deviants getting away with all sorts of perversion, is just.plain.ludicrous.
IMO.
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