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Old 07-18-2019, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I know people that drink every day off and at nights even if they have to work. Only one I know gets consistently fall down trunk and blacking out.
Sounds like your one friend is alcoholic................... and the others are still just 'in training'.

In all seriousness, one of the most frustrating things about this is that your response to alcohol changes as the years go by. Maybe you aren't falling down drunk at 25, but there is a good chance you might be at 45 if your drinking progresses.
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Old 07-25-2019, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I've never tried AA but every alcoholic I know who has says it's ineffective and/or depressing.

I don't know one person who says it works for them.

Not saying it doesn't work, just saying what I've heard.

I personally don't feel 12 step thing would work for me.
There are alternatives since AA does not work for many people.

Try Smart Recovery.

https://www.smartrecovery.org/
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Old 07-25-2019, 07:16 PM
 
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I have an alcohol problem. The last time I drank was 5 days ago. I got drunk 5 days ago. 3 people wanted to beat me up but I dont remember what happened. They were threating me to beat me up good. I started running and went inside a cafe nearby and told them to call the police. I was safe after that.

One day I will get beaten up pretty bad when drunk. There have been times I haven't drunk for as long as 2-3 months. Then I drank again. I dont remember some parts of the day when I drink.

Is there anybody who has a problem with alcohol?
No i dont have a drinking problem,OP.
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Old 07-26-2019, 12:41 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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I do not believe in ALcoholics Anonymous. I believe everybody can discipline themselves. It is esy to get addicted and everyone has that capability. A person can also stop. Ste boundaries. Say well i'll drink 6 beers and a shot and go home. If you do that you'll be fine.
I think that the below thread is an example of how hard that is for some people:

Ever seen an 'alcoholic' go from drinking alcoholically to moderately and healthily?
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Old 07-26-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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Op, alot...ALOT ALOT ALOT of people have a problem with alcohol. One the hardest things about it is once you stop and overcome the withdrawal affects and cravings. You STILL have to deal with the unresolved stuff you numbed with the liquor. Once you are no longer self-medicating you might have to deal with PTSD through sexual trauma/ Military Combat, childhood abuse, spousal abuse, etc.

Good look to you dude, I really mean it. I personally go to a once a week meeting at the VA clinic, it helps me to be around other vets who have these hurdles.
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Old 07-26-2019, 01:32 PM
 
Location: East Midlands, UK
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Yes

But only when I run out.
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Old 07-27-2019, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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99.9999% of addiction specialists would disagree with this approach. With alcoholics, it's all or nothing.
Actually there are alcohol moderation programs available. AA is the best known program and it preaches absolute abstinence but that does not mean it is the only game in town.
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Old 07-27-2019, 11:56 PM
 
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In our PC and feel good society, alcoholism has been now referred to as a disease.....
If your want to point the finger about the use of the word disease in regard to alcoholism you will have to go back a good many decades before the emergence of political correctness.

Rant as you will and want, but get the right target in your sights.
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Old 07-28-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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that does not mean it is the only game in town.
It is the only game in town.
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Old 07-28-2019, 09:03 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I went through a stint of heavy drinking. I am not a full blown alcoholic and was never dependent on booze but I did use it as a coping too. I would go through days on end drinking and just lose track of what day it was.


Then one fine day I said never again. The thought of drinking like that just makes me ill now. I look back on that period and just shake my head. Wondering what it was that came over me. Not being physically dependent did help with stopping. OP, if you have gone months without drinking you should be able to keep that up. It's really easy to just say the hell with it though, I know.


You get in that mindset that you just want to turn off the world. Oh yea, been there. It's always easier said than done. What did it for me was how sick it would make me and focusing on that and not wanting to feel that way anymore. I find now that my stomach will just flip flop when I think about alcohol.


That's a good thing. I hope you find what works for you. Everybody is different, cliche though that may be.
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