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Old Yesterday, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Back to OP, what is a "mass killing"? Look at Chicago any weekend.
Most of you guys are missing the point. A mass shooting is where someone randomly targets innocent people in a public place. People who are not associated with him, not related to him, who he has never seen before in his life.

Other types of homicides involve targets who are known to the killer (rival gang members, the cheating spouse, etc). These are excluded from this discussion.

 
Old Yesterday, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Would the DC sniper fall under the category or mass killer, or just serial killer...
 
Old Yesterday, 01:02 PM
 
Location: in the soup
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Would the DC sniper fall under the category or mass killer, or just serial killer...
There was also a black guy who shot up a factory in Kansas. And another one that shot up a church. I'm sure Google would yield plenty more.

But they didn't get much air time. Can't imagine why...

There was that Asian kid who shot up Virginia Tech. There was that Cuban kid Cruz who did him a shooting recently... but they called him white. Can't imagine why...

And several middle-easterners have also suffered from this 'caucasian sickness'

Must be contageous or something
 
Old Yesterday, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Gilroy perpetrator: part white, part Middle Eastern.

Virginia Beach perpetrator: black.

Aurora IL perpetrator: black.

Mercy Hospital (Chicago) perpetrator: black.

Capital Gazette perpetrator: Hispanic (arguably white depending on how you define "Hispanic").

Scottsdale spree killer: black.

Virginia Tech perpetrator: Asian.

Orlando Night Club perpetrator: Middle Eastern.

Fort Hood perpetrator: Middle Eastern.

San Bernardino perpetrators: Asian and Middle Eastern.

San Francisco UPS perpetrator: Asian.

Fort Lauderdale Airport perpetrator: Hispanic.


And so on...

Though plenty of mass shooting perpetrators are white, your perception is still off the mark.

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Old Yesterday, 01:19 PM
 
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Most of you guys are missing the point. A mass shooting is where someone randomly targets innocent people in a public place. People who are not associated with him, not related to him, who he has never seen before in his life.

Other types of homicides involve targets who are known to the killer (rival gang members, the cheating spouse, etc). These are excluded from this discussion.
That is not necessarily accurate. For example:

Mass shootings at schools are often done by a student that has been bullied.

Mass shootings at workplaces are often done by a disgruntled employee.
 
Old Yesterday, 01:28 PM
 
Location: East Midlands, UK
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That is not necessarily accurate. For example:

Mass shootings at schools are often done by a student that has been bullied.

Mass shootings at workplaces are often done by a disgruntled employee.
Disagree with your statrment on school shootings. They're not always victims of bullying. They're often excluded and marginalised and isolated. They grow to loathe their peers for living the life they were denied so they want to take revenge. Such killers don't see people as human beings anymore, but the sources of all of their pain, loneliness and poisonous envy. It is more a case of real or imagined social exclusion than bullying. Victims of bullying tend to internalise their pain. I did / do.
 
Old Yesterday, 01:33 PM
 
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The gunman praised a notorious hate-filled extremist book on Instagram beforehand.


Gilroy shooting: Gunman identified as Santino William Legan


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“Read Might Is Right by Ragnar Redbeard,” the account wrote next to a photo of a Smokey the Bear sign warning, “Fire danger high tonight.”

He was referring to a much-hated 1890 book embraced by white supremacists that was banned for years after being condemned as sexist, racist and anti-Semitic.
 
Old Yesterday, 01:35 PM
 
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So I'm killing time at work right now. Not gonna put in the effort (yet) to post the numbers. But the numbers are out there breaking down mass shooters by race. Feel free to google them up folks

What you'll find is that white people are (as usual) UNDER represented as perpetrators of mass shootings. And black people are (as usual) OVER represented.

Same trend... just not AS dramatic a difference as with murders in general, though still a pretty significant difference.

I'm not saying that black people are evil. I'm sure they have perfectly good reasons for murdering and raping so many people. But if ya'll are going to implicitly *lie* by singling out my own relatively peaceful and law-abiding demographic... then it's time to look at the facts.

Go ahead folks... google away. I'll be happy to post links this evening for anybody who isn't capable of googling it up themselves
 
Old Yesterday, 01:39 PM
 
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Disagree with your statrment on school shootings. They're not always victims of bullying. They're often excluded and marginalised and isolated. They grow to loathe their peers for living the life they were denied so they want to take revenge. Such killers don't see people as human beings anymore, but the sources of all of their pain, loneliness and poisonous envy. It is more a case of real or imagined social exclusion than bullying. Victims of bullying tend to internalise their pain. I did / do.
I didn't say they were always the result of bullying. But I do agree with what you're saying.

My main point, though, was that the victims of mass shootings are sometimes known. Another poster had said:

"A mass shooting is where someone randomly targets innocent people in a public place. People who are not associated with him, not related to him, who he has never seen before in his life."
 
Old Yesterday, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Can you cite any statestics showing that poor white people are murdering at a similar rate to black people of a similar economic status? If not, then this is lazy speculation.
Studies of white immigrant groups showed that the initial, poor immigrant generation generally had much higher rates of homicide and other crimes compared to their economically successful grandchildren.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/pdf/10.1377/hlthaff.12.4.80

"Roger Lane found that certain white ethnic groups in nineteenth-century
Philadelphia had rates of interpersonal violence that closely resembled
those of blacks living in the city." &c.

The paper goes on to discuss cultural, economic, social oppression, and other factors as a potential differentiating cause, then notes that more study is needed. The jury is still out on this, but clearly poverty is a factor.
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