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I didn’t accuse you of killing her (or of ‘moral depravity’). I’m questioning your lack of empathy/feeling relative to now, since you’re an adult.
I'm supposed to be upset now about a recurring dream I had 55+ years ago? Haha.
Ah well, you can't please everyone!
Dream analysts will tell you that everyone who appears in your dream is actually you in some respect. Really never had the slightest thing to do with my mother.
I found it interesting then and find it interesting still. Never was sure what it "meant" (if anything) and still am not sure.
If one fantasizes it, plans it and acts it out scene by scene
then kills someone in their mind instead of actually committing the act in real life, why not?
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Dream analysts will tell you that everyone who appears in your dream is actually you in some respect. Really never had the slightest thing to do with my mother.
I don’t find the dream disturbing in and of itself - as I previously stated. What I find disturbing is the lack of emotional attachment (and anger) required to plan/feed the thoughts/details of murder, per the thread (and to think of it as beneficial in some way). It doesn’t have anything to do with dream analysts.
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I don't know how to put this nicely, so ... that sounds totally nuts to me.
(And why on earth would you ask such a question?)
It was more of a rhetorical question although the lines are slowly blurring but that could be a byproduct of my SSRI malfunctioning.
The 25 to life consideration is a non issue.
I don't survive any of the scenarios
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That said, regarding the OP/thread, it’s more disturbing one would ‘waste their time’ relative to feeding such anger/dreams/fantasies - as it’s certainly more likely to materialize as a result.
On the contrary I don't find it to be that unusual, and to a certain extent probably a fairly common way to deal with frustrated anger.
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One study found that 73% of men and 66% of women in their sample had fantasised about killing someone.
In a replication of their study they found similar rates - 79% of men and 58% of women.
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When we mentally rehearse such situations we realise that murdering someone probably isn’t what we actually want to do, that we couldn’t live with the consequences. Those who don’t have this capacity to mentally test potential future behaviours might act more impulsively, and live to regret it.
I think it would be cause for concern if someone is obsessed with such a fantasy, or becomes aroused by it, or acts on it in any way, but I don't think that's the case for most people who find themselves sometimes fantasizing the death of someone they think has wronged them or caused them harm in some way.
I saw the last episode last night. YEAH, it leaves us hanging with BTK. Of course, I know they weren't going to catch him for another 13 years.
But to the topic, it's a serious subject. I DID think about ways to kill my abusive husband when I was married. I can tell you, when you think there is no other way out, it's a very short trip from wishing someone dead to starting to think about how you can make it happen.
More than the actual act, though, I fantasized about what I would wear to the funeral, how I would play the part of a grieving widow, etc. I didn't actually have the stomach to kill in the way we think of murdering someone, but I did make sure I cooked him high-cholesterol meals and such, knowing he had high cholesterol and that his father had died at 49 of a heart attack. Hey, he didn't have to eat it.
My favorite fantasy of killing him was to start telling people he'd gotten into eating natural foods and was going into the woods to pick wild mushrooms and such. Then a few months later, whoops, he ate some poison mushrooms.
In reality, though, it wouldn't have flown. Claiming that an ordained, dedicated alcoholic with a coke habit who also liked prescription drugs had turned into a natural-food freak wouldn't be believable to anyone.
In the end, I got to the point that I was actually terrified that I WOULD kill him. I feared I might snap one day and start beating him over the head with the cast-iron pan or something and not be able to stop until he was down and not moving. It is a sobering thought to realize that you are capable of killing.
We've been divorced more than 20 years now and are civil to each other. I no longer wish him dead. We recently celebrated our daughter's PhD together and had a good time. He's got health issues from years of bad habits, but he's someone else's problem now.
You could have tried the leg of lamb method - you kill him with the frozen leg of lamb; then you dispose of the murder weapon at dinner.
If one fantasizes it, plans it and acts it out scene by scene
then kills someone in their mind instead of actually committing the act in real life, why not?
Mom would call that mind pollution....but she understood when it was in my line of work to have to that from time to time. The thing is, that when I do it, it is because the mission calls for it, like planning a scenario for an armed hostage situation.
Finally, as that I am one of the ones with the firepower, I don't fantasize about offing this or that criminal.....if I had the chance. I don't think that is healthy but further, I think that leads to patterns of thought that support such a wrong decision, could lead to the wrong decision in a critical moment, be it a tactical situation.....or even voting for someone who calls for such action.
The most I go to fantasizing is some TV land thing and often, it is rather fantastic. Ever see 90210 where Donna almost gets raped in the beach house (and David comes charging to her rescue)? Well, in my fantasy, I am hiding there in the shadows, place a 12 gauge to his temple while he is atop of her and blow his head off (why, didn't even have the decency to get him off Donna first).
Okay, that is phase I. In phase II, who is investigating me? Lt. Columbo! His problem, 10 minutes before the rapist was killed, I was positively confirmed to be 60 miles away by unshakeable sources and 10 minutes after, that alibi was reconfirmed by the same. To do that killing, I would have to move at Mach 1+ (actually at Mach 2 for how I did it), so if I did it.....how?
That's as far as I take my murder fantasies.
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Well, I am currently watching Mindhunter, and that's part of the information. They start out fantasizing. Best not go down that road.
Then again, a murder mystery author would have to.
On the contrary I don't find it to be that unusual, and to a certain extent probably a fairly common way to deal with frustrated anger.
It may be common (or not); that doesn’t make it beneficial (or healthy) regarding the OP/thread. If I was personally associated with such a person, it would certainly give me pause (as it’s a clear indication, from my perspective, they are not as emotionally healthy as they could be relative to unresolved anger/fantasy). In other words, it’s far more healthy to have a (constructive) life, or working toward such, than be lost in thought/fantasy relative to taking a life. It’s not rocket science.
Additionally, while not all go on to actually commit the crime, thinking about it in detail/planning it in one’s mind is certainly how it starts for those who do.
I don’t find the dream disturbing in and of itself - as I previously stated. What I find disturbing is the lack of emotional attachment (and anger) required to plan/feed the thoughts/details of murder, per the thread (and to think of it as beneficial in some way). It doesn’t have anything to do with dream analysts.
You have an interestingly piqued censorial take on my reactions to my own ancient dreams. This interests me.
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