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Old 08-24-2023, 03:47 PM
 
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Harry, I was talking about a psychotherapist. With credentials, of course.

I've done psychotherapy with a few here in California. I moved a lot so I worked with a few people. I was the client. They told me that they were/are required to get a certain number of psychotherapy hours for themselves. After a certain number of working hours. That's what they told me, that's what I wrote here.

My first comment was for the original poster. I know about different techniques, different methods, some specialize in trauma, EMDR etc etc. All these are in the link that I posted.

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You can't just talk to a friend about trauma for instance or other stuff. They are not trained in listening and offering real help and techniques for self-help. They can be traumatized by your story. And get emotional. And maybe they don't have the toughness to cope. Or intuition or IQ or other reasons...so many reasons.

A trained psychotherapist offers books, visualization techniques, clear suggestions and guidance. In certain cases, one needs a specialist, an expert.

The OP is brave to seek help. I encourage him to do it.
OK, you were talking of California. The requirements are different in different states. My wife was licensed psychologist in private practice in Alabama and everything looked great in the transfer to Florida, but there was a half-year or year where the accreditation of the university she attended was in process that got disallowed in Florida but not AL. She slipped down a notch on payscales, and a re-do at that point was simple not possible.

A lot of psych practice is handled much like the handling of nurse practitioners. One person with credentials up the wazoo starts the group, and lesser trained individuals climb on "under supervision."

A lot of innovation comes out of California, but some of it is marginal at best. I can certainly understand why more peer review would be the case there.
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Old 08-24-2023, 03:47 PM
 
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I've come upon some issues in my life that I think have gotten a little too big for me to handle myself. So I'm kind of sort of looking for a therapist.

I've messed around on the psychology today sent a few emails out and had some people tell me they really don't specialize in what I'm dealing with. And now I'm getting these vastly different people on vastly different spectrums of price point and practice type and degree and I'm a little confused with it all.

I've never had to shop for a therapist before and I don't really know anything about this has anybody else had to do this and if so did you use tools other than psychology today this is just a whole different world for me and I don't quite understand it.
I asked my PCP. Also check with your health insurance, they might have a bunch of people that take your insurance that could be of help.
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Old 08-24-2023, 07:46 PM
 
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I've come upon some issues in my life that I think have gotten a little too big for me to handle myself. So I'm kind of sort of looking for a therapist.

I've messed around on the psychology today sent a few emails out and had some people tell me they really don't specialize in what I'm dealing with. And now I'm getting these vastly different people on vastly different spectrums of price point and practice type and degree and I'm a little confused with it all.

I've never had to shop for a therapist before and I don't really know anything about this has anybody else had to do this and if so did you use tools other than psychology today this is just a whole different world for me and I don't quite understand it.

The first time during a divorce I found a Marriage and Family counselor at work because one of the supervisors who was pretty emotional and erratic turned into the picture of calm and serenity and I asked her who she was seeing. The second time after an heinous accident that disabled me caused me depression I looked at online reviews and went to a shrink for six months. I did not really feel she was a fit for me and so I asked my internal med guy who he would recommend (that was male instead) and I have been seeing that guy ever since (on and off). The first instance the marriage and family counselor / career counselor was perfect for me and the guy I have now has really helped me solve a few long term problems. He has 3 PhD's (and is also an MD) and can prescribe meds (he's 74 and he is a competitive swimmer). Both have been older males (which seems to work for me).

Being able to run things by an objective third party who is skilled and trained is invaluable. It can take some trial and error. You can make some huge strides psychologically if you put a lot of work into it (just like everything else in life).
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Old 08-24-2023, 08:21 PM
 
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Hey OP, I apologize if my comments bothered or upset you, that wasn't my intent and I really wasn't trying to be a jerk.
Looks like later in the thread you mentioned that you have tried to talk to some friends, but it didn't help or resolve anything.
Anyway, I do apologize and was trying to offer some easier options.

I personally had horrible experiences with therapists early in life, bad enough that a TV movie could have been made from it. So I've grown a bit cynical over professional therapy in general and how it's used as a catchall solution for everyone's problems nowadays. Another common answer throughout the forum is to "go take a walk in nature" and you'll feel better. I roll my eyes at that one, too, because they obviously can't relate to when the pain is so bad you can't even get out the front door, or out of bed.
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Old 08-24-2023, 08:31 PM
 
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Hey OP, I apologize if my comments bothered or upset you, that wasn't my intent and I really wasn't trying to be a jerk.
Looks like later in the thread you mentioned that you have tried to talk to some friends, but it didn't help or resolve anything.
Anyway, I do apologize and was trying to offer some easier options.

I personally had horrible experiences with therapists early in life, bad enough that a TV movie could have been made from it. So I've grown a bit cynical over professional therapy in general and how it's used as a catchall solution for everyone's problems nowadays. Another common answer throughout the forum is to "go take a walk in nature" and you'll feel better. I roll my eyes at that one, too, because they obviously can't relate to when the pain is so bad you can't even get out the front door, or out of bed.
I forgot to mention the first time I gave it a try I picked someone based on the location. I went in and sat on his big leather couch. He never said a word. I sat there sweating uncontrollably and I gave him some background on me. I was very nervous (my first time). After I could not think of anything else to say he said "wow, you really have a lot of problems and I am surprised this is the first time you have sought help." Yeah, well, needless to say that was the end of that until a few years later when I found the marriage and family counselor.

Don't let the early experiences scar you for life; it's trial and error sometimes.
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Old 08-24-2023, 08:45 PM
 
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OP, therapy made my life better. I hope it does the same for you. Does your insurance have a website where you can search for providers? That is what I would suggest.

It was 1999 when I needed one, and back then I called the insurance company, said what I was looking for help with, and they gave me names. Now they have search functions.

Good luck!
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Old 08-24-2023, 09:14 PM
 
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The first time during a divorce I found a Marriage and Family counselor at work because one of the supervisors who was pretty emotional and erratic turned into the picture of calm and serenity and I asked her who she was seeing. The second time after an heinous accident that disabled me caused me depression I looked at online reviews and went to a shrink for six months. I did not really feel she was a fit for me and so I asked my internal med guy who he would recommend (that was male instead) and I have been seeing that guy ever since (on and off). The first instance the marriage and family counselor / career counselor was perfect for me and the guy I have now has really helped me solve a few long term problems. He has 3 PhD's (and is also an MD) and can prescribe meds (he's 74 and he is a competitive swimmer). Both have been older males (which seems to work for me).

Being able to run things by an objective third party who is skilled and trained is invaluable. It can take some trial and error. You can make some huge strides psychologically if you put a lot of work into it (just like everything else in life).
I've been trying to climb out of this for a couple years now and I'm not getting anywhere I'll look into my insurance and see what they have to say it's just something involved in this is not my instance companies business.
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Old 08-24-2023, 09:22 PM
 
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I've been trying to climb out of this for a couple years now and I'm not getting anywhere I'll look into my insurance and see what they have to say it's just something involved in this is not my instance companies business.
Since I have two diagnoses (PTSD and Major Depression brought about by the heinous accident I was involved in) my shrink is able to bill my insurance $360. They allow $325; they pay $300 and I pay $25. My shrink will only take BCBS or Cash. That's for 45 minutes.

I am able to Self Refer on my plan.

You should be able to find a list of doctors that are within your insurance plan as preferred providers. The insurance gets the codes when it gets billed; but, they have no reason to access your records.
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Old 08-24-2023, 09:29 PM
 
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Hey OP, I apologize if my comments bothered or upset you, that wasn't my intent and I really wasn't trying to be a jerk.
Water under the bridge. No worries. It didn't upset me it just wasn't very useful in sorry if I was rude to you.
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Looks like later in the thread you mentioned that you have tried to talk to some friends, but it didn't help or resolve anything.
I was being intentionally vague about this because I don't want this to be a discussion any my issues I was specifically asking for advice finding a therapist.

I have talked to friends. They haven't dealt with this, I know that for a fact.

It's okay if you don't know how to seek therapy but that was all I was asking advice about.
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Anyway, I do apologize and was trying to offer some easier options.
Yeah I get that. I have great friends they can't be my therapists I don't want to go through this with them. I want them to be happy to see me not say "oh no here comes the blubbering mess" I have had friendships like that and they are exhausting. I don't want to be that.
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I personally had horrible experiences with therapists early in life, bad enough that a TV movie could have been made from it. So I've grown a bit cynical over professional therapy in general and how it's used as a catchall solution for everyone's problems nowadays.
I wouldn't be considering this if my friends had not advised me to. It's not some piddly ass problem that I can just get over. It's a difficult thing for me to ask for help. But the problem isn't going away. I have to deal with it and as long as I've been struggling with it I'm still at the beginning not any better so I'm not equipped.

I get being cynical but I can't cynical myself out of this hole.
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Another common answer throughout the forum is to "go take a walk in nature" and you'll feel better. I roll my eyes at that one, too, because they obviously can't relate to when the pain is so bad you can't even get out the front door, or out of bed.
Spending time in nature does make me feel better but feeling better is temporary. I'm not in much pain it's more like I'm stuck in mud and can't figure out how to get out.

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Old 08-24-2023, 09:34 PM
 
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Since I have two diagnoses (PTSD and Major Depression brought about by the heinous accident I was involved in) my shrink is able to bill my insurance $360. They allow $325; they pay $300 and I pay $25. My shrink will only take BCBS or Cash. That's for 45 minutes.

I am able to Self Refer on my plan.

You should be able to find a list of doctors that are within your insurance plan as preferred providers. The insurance gets the codes when it gets billed; but, they have no reason to access your records.
Yeah I'll have to look the only way to find out if call their emergency hotline. I don't think it's PTSD or major depression as I can't point to an event. But I really want to find the right fit so I can do the damn work and move on. And I've asked some psychs in my network and they say "I don't have any expertise in that" so it feels like looking for a stack of cash at the lost and found.
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