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Old 02-26-2017, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I never heard of MGTOW until I read this thread. I went to their forums and it's just a bunch of delusional, bitter men who hate women. Most of them appear to be divorced men who are paying alimony and/or child support. I don't have a problem with the philosophy of moving on if sex/relationships have had a negative impact on your life. However, most of these men appear to have serious anger issues with women that they need to address through therapy. Hating women will not solve your problems.
You're right, and that's a huge problem with that "movement." If not being in a relationship is what makes you happy, then godspeed and best wishes, but a lot of what you see online from those groups is just dripping with vitriol and negativity. And there doesn't appear to be any real-world activism or proposals for positive change on the issues that they feel are outdated or unfair. Hating feminism isn't the answer to anything.
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Old 02-26-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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The unfortunate thing is many of them have legitimate grievances, which they are handling in the wrong way. They are especially brutal on single moms; can't believe some of what I read.


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You're right, and that's a huge problem with that "movement." If not being in a relationship is what makes you happy, then godspeed and best wishes, but a lot of what you see online from those groups is just dripping with vitriol and negativity. And there doesn't appear to be any real-world activism or proposals for positive change on the issues that they feel are outdated or unfair. Hating feminism isn't the answer to anything.
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Old 03-05-2017, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Nevada side of Lake Tahoe
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I feel the single life to be isolating. I crave to pick up a few call girls and go to a hotel or something. Most of them hang out within a few block radius of police headquarters with the cops having eagle eyes. Plus some of them can be undercover cops and run sting operations. I guess I'm stuck with p*nhub for now.
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Old 03-06-2017, 09:22 AM
 
Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula
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Whorehouses are legal in Nevada outside of Clark County (Las Vegas).
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Old 03-06-2017, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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I don't understand buying sex that way. It seems much more sensible to spend the money on a few dates, and get all the sex you want.
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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You're right, and that's a huge problem with that "movement." If not being in a relationship is what makes you happy, then godspeed and best wishes, but a lot of what you see online from those groups is just dripping with vitriol and negativity. And there doesn't appear to be any real-world activism or proposals for positive change on the issues that they feel are outdated or unfair. Hating feminism isn't the answer to anything.
I have noticed this too. I see a lot of people on this forum that seem to blame feminism for their lack of being in a relationship with a female. This annoys me because as a female it implies that they would only want someone if they could dominate them and tend to substitute being in a relationship with female with people/ things they can more easily control ex a pet or a prostitute.

I get the vibe from certain men that if they are not in the control seat they don't want to be in the situation. I think this is likely more subconscious. Not all women or men are the same, but I always found is really annoying when men back away from women that can hold their own. They become intimidated and then resentful.
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Crook County, Illinois
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I get the vibe from certain men that if they are not in the control seat they don't want to be in the situation. I think this is likely more subconscious. Not all women or men are the same, but I always found is really annoying when men back away from women that can hold their own. They become intimidated and then resentful.
That's because today's relationships are a zero-sum game: you're either doing the controlling or you're being controlled. By default, the woman is in charge. Since it's human nature to not want to be controlled, and those men either don't know how to exert control or have moral qualms about doing so, they choose to eschew relationships altogether. This way, it's their life and theirs alone, and they don't have to be vigilant 24/7 about standing their ground. Especially about trivial things, like clothes on the floor or dishes in the sink.

I also think that some men (and I guess women too) eschew relationships because they grew up in an authoritarian household, and living with anybody is a scenario they don't want to repeat.
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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I don't understand buying sex that way. It seems much more sensible to spend the money on a few dates, and get all the sex you want.
If you can't get the dates then yeah it becomes the way to go.
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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You mean like on forums? <evil grin>

At least some people on forums have brains. Computer games and porn involve no intelligence. Just either adrenaline or Vaseline.
Forums are not really great, there's really no intelligence to be found by people who just complain ad nauseam about something and blame other people for their problems when they can not or will not fix them themselves.

At least with computer games and porn they spare others from their whining.
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Old 03-06-2017, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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The unfortunate thing is many of them have legitimate grievances, which they are handling in the wrong way. They are especially brutal on single moms; can't believe some of what I read.
I really wish there were a more moderate MGTOW-like group that would speak out for people like my old HS classmate who is paying child support for a kid he proved paternity was not his (and never married the mother) or for friends who can't see their kids without incurring legal bills to get even visitation. Having those clowns speak for that sucks.
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